In his article, Shaykh Nuh expanded on the unjust takfir made by Barelwis against the scholars of Deoband. He says that Barelwis were guilty of the “greatest Wahhabi bid’a of all” and thus states indirectly that Barelwis and especially Ahmad Raza Khan have Wahhabi traits:
The sad irony in this was that the greatest Wahhabi bid‘a of all, takfir of fellow Muslims, was unleashed in India by denunciations of “Wahhabism.” Ahmad Reza’s fatwas depicted his opponents as “Wahhabi sects,” which his latter-day followers came to declare all Deobandis to belong to through a sort of “guilt by association.”
http://shadhilitariqa.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=20
Barelwis: A Critical Review 
Well, there is a breaking news:
Barelwis ( see the barelwi forum called masabih ) have not only declared Nuh Ha Mim Keller, Hamza Yusuf Hanson, Abdal Hakim Murad and all those associated with Inter Faith Conference Like Abdullah Bin Bayyah et. al but they have declared their own Barelwi Ulama ( hardcore barelwis who took tariqa from Ahmed Rida Khan’s students ) as kaafirs.
There is a new Barelwi sect/faction led by grandsons of Ahmed Raza Khan Barelwi called ALL INDIA SUNNI TABLEEGHI JAMAAT ( a copy cat of real sunni tableeghi jamaat )
These barelwis have declared other barelwis like the barelwis of Dawate e Islami ( Ilyas Attari Qadri ) and Sunni Dawate e Islami ( led by some Noori Qadri ) have been declared deviant/heretics/kaafir
see here
http://www.sunnitableegijamaat.com/ilyaskufr.htm
http://www.sunnitableegijamaat.com/fatwa.htm
http://www.sunnitableegijamaat.com/askmufti.htm
see the fatwa and save a copy
See their home page it is full of attack on other barelwi sects
http://www.sunnitableegijamaat.com/home.htm
Bhai, pehle aap is website ka matlab samajh lein phir comments pass karein toh behter hoga.
YOu are shameless liar. Yes there are disagreements amongst scholars on various issues of fiqh but none of them have declared each other kaffir. Yes we consider the Deobandis who defend the kuffria statements as kaffirs but Deobandi majority isnt kaffir only a minority amongst Deobandis are kaffir.
Whoever agrees with the belief system of the great founding father of darul uloom (uloom e shaitaniyah) Deoband “Qasim Nanotawi about the Seal of the Prophet hood, — “Even if it were assumed that a new Prophet can come during the era of the Holy Prophet or after the Holy Prophet, it would not have an effect on the finality of our the Holy Prophet. Ref: Tahzeerun-Naas (Pg 25, Published By: Kutub Khana Qasmi Deoband, Written By: Qasim Nanotwi)”
2) the belief of Rashid Gangohi about the possibility of lie being associated with the Almighty Allah Azzawajal,
3) the belief of Khalil Ahmed Ambethvi & Ashraf Thanvi about the knowledge of Unseen of the Holy Prophet Sallallaahu Alaihi wa Alehi Wa Sallam even after understanding the Islam & the obligations of religion clearly, is definitely a Kaafir & the 80 % of Ummah (Barring Najdi’s (Ahle Hadith), Deobandis, Kharjis & other like minded sects ) firmly stands by this.
Find all the references – http://aakhirikhtilaafkyun.blogspot.co.uk/
No muslim can have the Aqidah that If the Holy Prophets (Ambiya) have Higher status than to their Ummatis then it’s only only due to their Knowledge whereas as far as deed (Amaal) is concerned some times followers can rise up to the level of the Holy Prophets in fact even surpass them (the Holy Prophets)
14 th line, (Tahzeer un-Naas, pg 5) Book by the “Great Founding Father” of Deoband, Maulvi Qasim Nanotavi
Please don’t ignore to check the Scanned page to convince yourself – http://aakhirikhtilaafkyun.blogspot.co.uk/
As per “Great Founding Father” of Deoband, Maulvi Qasim Nanotavi, the Muslims (the slaves of the Holy Prophet Muhammed Sallallaahu Alaihi wa Alehi wa Sallam) can offer Namaaz and perform deeds in the same spirit as offered and performed by their Commander. The One who is so beloved to his LORD that the whole Universe was created just because He was to be Created. Not only was this the belief of Nanotawi, He went ahead & believed that the slaves of the Holy Prophet Muhammed Sallallaahu Alaihi wa Alehi wa sallam can even surpass him in offering Salaat and performing other obligations of the religion (Nauzu Billah min Zaalik).
Such was the arrogance & ego of this cult’s founding father that it looks in order to propose himself & like minded people more virtuous in performing obligations/deeds of Islam even than the Holy Prophet Sallallaahu Alaihi wa Alehi wa sallam, he held this belief & gave this teaching to his followers.
Not surprisingly to the great extent, If one goes in the Jamaat of this cult, He will find some of this group’s members discussing this ibarat & trying to justify this teaching according to their ill derived logics (Like if a follower gets the age of 64 years & if He was offering Namaaz from the age of 15 – 16 then He will surpass the Holy Prophet Sallallaahu Alaihi wa Alehi wa sallam in performing Namaaz because the Holy Prophet Sallallaahu Alaihi wa Alehi wa sallam lived for 63 years only). Maaz Allah
Whoever agrees with the belief system of the great founding father of darul uloom (uloom e shaitaniyah) Deoband “Qasim Nanotawi about the Seal of the Prophet hood, — “Even if it were assumed that a new Prophet can come during the era of the Holy Prophet or after the Holy Prophet, it would not have an effect on the finality of our the Holy Prophet. Ref: Tahzeerun-Naas (Pg 25, Published By: Kutub Khana Qasmi Deoband, Written By: Qasim Nanotwi)”
2) the belief of Rashid Gangohi about the possibility of lie being associated with the Almighty Allah Azzawajal,
3) the belief of Khalil Ahmed Ambethvi & Ashraf Thanvi about the knowledge of Unseen of the Holy Prophet Sallallaahu Alaihi wa Alehi Wa Sallam even after understanding the Islam & the obligations of religion clearly, is definitely a Kaafir & the 80 % of Ummah (Barring Najdi’s (Ahle Hadith), Deobandis, Kharjis & other like minded sects ) firmly stands by this.
Find all the references – http://aakhirikhtilaafkyun.blogspot.co.uk/
The teachings of these Deobandi/Jamaati “Bade” can be under stood very clearly in the light of this Hadith –
The Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: ” In the period prior to the Day of Judgement, false and deceitful groups will emerge. They will say things to you, which neither you nor your forefathers will have ever heard before. Stay away from these deceitful people and do not let them come near you!
Do not be misguided by them and do not let them cause strife amongst you!” (Sahih Muslim)
Follow up to Barelwis doing Takfir of other barelwis
Looks like Barelwis have made it a business, so if they see a rival group growing fast, then they try to slow it by khariji style takfir
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In this race,BARELWI SECT A has gone against BARELWI SECT B
BARELWI SECT C is going against BARELWI SECT D
BARELWI SECT E is going against BARELWI SECT F
And everyone is qouting books to prove themselves..
Ilyas Qadri Attari — founder of Barelwi Dawate e Islami group has been declared kaafir by Barelwis affliated with the grandson of AlaHazrat Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi – who calls himself Taj us Shariah Akhtar Raza Khan Barelwi
and Fatwa of Kufr on Ilyas Qadri Attari
http://www.sunnitableegijamaat.com/ilyaskufr.htm
May Allah protect us from the greatest Takfiri khawarij of our times who in our present days call themselves Barelwis.
Also, Deoband & above mentioned sayings/writings of the “greats” of this group can be very well understood in the light of this hadith
—The Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: ” In the period prior to the Day of Judgement, false and deceitful groups will emerge. They will say things to you, which neither you nor your forefathers will have ever heard before. Stay away from these deceitful people and do not let them come near you! Do not be misguided by them and do not let them cause strife amongst you!” (Sahih Muslim)
Moderator, By Allah Azzawajal, If you were on truth then definitely you would have posted my last comments before the one shown above.
One can’t expect more from a Deobandi…!!! Right …!!!!
Moderator note: no messages were deleted. It takes time to approve messages, that’s all.
And Messages get approved on the basis of what …whether the Person hasn’t exposed open the Deobandiyyat’s belief system or Has he….???
By Allah Azzawajal, If you were on truth then definitely you would have posted my last comments of date May 30. 2012 before the one shown here — ” —The Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: ” In the period prior to the Day of Judgement, false and deceitful groups will emerge. They will say things to you, which neither you nor your forefathers will have ever heard before. Stay away from these deceitful people and do not let them come near you! Do not be misguided by them and do not let them cause strife amongst you!” (Sahih Muslim)”
Barelwis declaring other barelwis kaafir
Fatwas
Here we are not speaking about the barelwi fatwa of takfir kufr riddah on Shaykh al-Barelwi Dr. Tahir al-Qadri or Pir Abdul Qadir Jilani ( the so called mufakir or mukafir ? of Barelwis )
but we are speaking about the takfir done by Barelwis upon other barelwis ( dawate islami group )
http://web.archive.org/web/20120607060912/http://www.sunnitableegijamaat.com/home.htm
Dawateislami ke
Napaak Kartoot..!!
1)Faizan-e-Sunnat mein Allah Ta’ala ki Shaan me gustakhi (Ma’azAllah)
2)Dawateislami ki Kitab “Sarkar ka Paigham Attar ke Naam” mein Huzur (SallAllahu Alahiwasallam) ki Shan-e-Aqdas mein Sakht tauheen (Ma’azAllah)
3) Ilyas Attar ke Naam ke Agey durud (SallAllahu Alaihiwasallam) likh Maara (Ma’azAllah)
4) Sarkar Alahazrat ki Kitaab Al Malfuz Sharif ko DI ne Tehreef karke shaye kiya..
Radd-e-Wahaabiya ko kitab se ghayab kar diya..!
5) DI walon ke Huzur Muhaddis-e-kabeer par lagaye Jhoote ilzamat ki wazahat
6) Ilyas Attar ki Kahaani, khud Ilyas Attar ki Zubaani (Must Listen)
7) DawateIslami walon ko Ahle Sunnat Masajidon se Nikal diya jaye..
(Muftiyan-e-kram ka Ahem Fatwa)
3) Sarkar Alahazrat Ki Karaamat, Dawateislami ke Manshoor ka Radd
Fatawa Razzawiya Sharif mein Maujud.
(Hashmati Shamsheer Hazrat Allama Shumail Raza Sahab)
Dawateislami ka Total Boycott..!!!
(May 2012)
1. T.V, Video aur Sulaahkulliyon ka Fitna, Dajjal ke Fitno me se hai..!
(Janasheen e Huzur Muftie-e-Azam Huzur Tajush Shariah Maddazillahul A’ali- May 2012)
2. Sarkar Alahazrat ki Zaat-e-paak par Dawateislami ne lagayee jhooti Tohmat (Ma’azAllah)
Fatawa Razzawiya Sharif Par ilyas Attar ki lagayee gayee Jhooti Tohmat ka Operation
(Nawasa-e-Huzur Muftie Azam Hazrat Allama Jamal Raza Khan Sahab Razvi (Maddazillahul A’ali)
1.Maslak-e-Alahazrat se dushmani
Shakir Noorie ki Makkari ka Pardah hua faash
Ye Audio file ko suniye
Download(click here)
(to listen and download right click download link and “Save target As”)
2.Shakir Noorie Huzoor Tajush Shariah ka khalifa nahi.
Ye Audio file ko suniye
Download(click here)
(to listen and download right click download link and “Save target As”)
Sunni DawateIslami ki aur bohot se Karname Aap sab ke Samne Pesh kiye Jayenge.Khulasa ye hai ke DawateIslami ki Tarah ye bhi Gumraah Tanzeem hai Aur Maslake Alahazrat se iska koi Lena dena nahi hai
Good News, Finally Barelwis admit that they love to call other barelwis misguided, deviant, kafir, innovators, heretics, etc etc.
First visit this website of Barelwis doing takfir of other barelvis ( Baraylawis ) http://sunnitableegijamaat.com/azharimiyan.htm
Scanned pages ( urdu and english available + audio )
Let us start reading from Barelwi posters @ BarelwiPort
AbdalQadir who has been following this blog starts with a question which if he keeps asking these type of questions on BarelwiForum, he will be called wahhabi-Kaafir or trying to stir fitnah, but since this is his first question on the subject, benefit of doubt is given to him:
AbdalQadir Barelwi said:
Can someone please just tell me what’s going on between the scholar or scholars of Bareilly and Dawate Islami?
Is there a genuine tension and do they have genuine issues between each other, or just some jahil mureeds from either or both sides puffing hot air?
I’m not interested in bickering or taking sides of right or wrong. Just would like to know what exactly is going on and what are the different sides different reasons for it. I am unaware.
—END OF ABDALQADIR BARELWI’s GENUINE CONCERN—
Abdal-Qadir is replied by another barelwi
—-BEGIN Qasim Hanafi Ridwi —-
……….. However since Mawlana Abu Hasan Rampuri has referred to some of the ‘mureeds’ of Huzur Sayyiduna Shaykh ul Islam Taaj ush Shariah Allamah Mufti Akhtar Raza Khan al Qadri al Azhari hafizahullahu Ta’ala in a very negative way. I must say believe me if I start with my direct personal experiences of the Attari Ilyasi mureeds the situation will get very messy.
I do not agree with what is going on and the elite aakaabir have nothing to do with the false propaganda. Namely Huzur Sayyiduna Shaykh ul Islam Taaj ush Shariah Allamah Mufti Akhtar Raza Khan al Qadri al Azhari and Huzur Sayyiduna Muhaddis e Kabeer Allamah Mufti Zia ul Mustafa al Qadri al A’azami hafziahumAllahu Tabaarak wa Ta’ala.
However here are a few issues that STJ has highlighted:
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Huzur Sayyiduna Shaykh ul Islam Taaj ush Shariah Allamah Mufti Akhtar Raza Khan al Qadri al Azhari hafizahullahu Ta’ala on the Tehreef Amendment of Malfooz e Aala Hazrat Shah Ahmed Raza Khan radi Allahu Ta’ala ‘anhu
—-END Qasim Hanafi Ridwi —
1. It is not clear who this Mawlana Abu Hasan Rampuri is ? If he means by the distorter con-artist Barelwi Abu Hasan al-Ridawi then since when did this fraudster become mawlana, shaykh, sidi ( trying to climb the same ladder of T J Winters ?? )
2. Alhamdulilaah, Barelwis admit that they are master of deception and distortion as the grandmufti of Barelwis Akhtar Rida Khan talks about tahreef done by other barelwis on the books of Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi himself ? Where does that leave AlooHazrat after the Tahreef one may ponder ?!!
—-SENIOR TAKFEERI MODERATOR OF BARELWIPORT BRAZER NOORI MIYAN SAID —-
i have the same experience with riDawi murideen, in deed many of them think that DI (specially molana ilyas qadri) is out of islam and they are very active in promoting this. i requested some of them to go to muftiyan e kiram for a fatwa of kufr rather than backbiting and finding faults with DI, this will resolve the issue and clear the air, but they did not and they still continue to backbite DI at any occasion they get a chance even after every mawlid mahafil.
sidi AH talked about this fanatical attitude of murideen from both sides
it would have been nice if you had formatted your posts properly and verified the links. big spaces between paragraphs, many fonts, colors and sizes, it doesn’t appeal a reading.
apart from the formatting i really didn’t get your point, you said……..,<<>>
how does it take the blame off the murideen who are only doing bad service to their shuyukh. for some of them i sometime feel that in their eyes there is no sunni on earth except their own selves.
this is not directly related to the topic, but several articles in Taĥqīq-o-Tafhīm shed some light on this attitude of ahlussunah, molana usaid al-haq Muhammed Asim appears to avoid to answer in open words but still he has raised his voice. read from page page 255 (pdf 257) until 279
disclaimer: i am not happy with what DI is doing specially on their channel, and making a separate cult within ahlussunah, they are earning a bad name for ahlussunah, and due to their mistakes ahlussunah are put under heavy criticism, but i cannot consider them out of islam or even out of ahlussunah until i see a fatwa from prominent scholars. in deed i asked a well known and well respected scholar about DI, and he replied ‘no they are not kafir, nor out of ahlussunah, but there are problems with their baba ji, and we do tell them to correct these mistakes’
—-END OF WORDS BY SENIOR TAKFEERI MODERATOR OF BARELWIPORT BRAZER NOORI MIYAN SAID —-
Points to note:
1.”in deed many of them think that DI (specially molana ilyas qadri) is out of islam and they are very active in promoting this.”
mashaAllah very good tarbiyah from your grandmufti Akhtar Rida Khan Barelwi. He even beats the real khawarij when it comes to takfir. I mean khawarij did takfir of non-khawarij., but here barelwis ( neo-khawarij ) doing takfir of their own other barelwis ( neo-khawarij )
2. “sidi AH talked about this fanatical attitude of murideen from both sides”
does your own SIDI or is it CD know about his own fanatical attitude with other muslims ?
3. “it would have been nice if you had formatted your posts properly and verified the links. big spaces between paragraphs, many fonts, colors and sizes, it doesn’t appeal a reading.”:
Brain Malfunction ? where is takfeer and where is ‘ it doesn’t appeal a reading’ !!!
4. “i am not happy with what DI is doing specially on their channel, and making a separate cult within ahlussunah, they are earning a bad name for ahlussunah, and due to their mistakes ahlussunah are put under heavy criticism”
keywords:
not happy with what DI ( meaning the barelwi Dawate-islami )
making a separate cult
earning a bad name for ahlussunah ( meaning earning bad name for barelwism )
due to their mistakes ahlussunah are put under heavy criticism ( meaning Barelwism is put under heavy criticism by other Barelwism )
Note: any sane person can ask, who are the other non-barelwi (ridawi) mawlanas who criticized Dawate Islami ?
Did the tafzeeli barelwi Pir Abdul Qadir Jilani say something ? or did the Shaykh al-Islam of Barelwis Dr. Tahir al-Qadri say somethng about Dawate Islami ?
5. ” i asked a well known and well respected scholar about DI, and he replied ‘no they are not kafir, nor out of ahlussunah, but there are problems with their baba ji, and we do tell them to correct these mistakes’ ”
No, barelwi moderator Noori, is it not problems with the Barelwi Babji Ilyas Attari but fatwa of kufr here is the link which you may show to your other babaji’s who said they are not yet kafirs
http://sunnitableegijamaat.com/digumrahi.html
AbdulQadir jumps in again responding to noori
—BEGIN ABDALQADIR——
brother, can you please elaborate on that, what these things are that they are doing on their channel, and what are the cult-like activities they are involved in?
i am not being sarcy and ask this genuinely as i am unaware and would like to know. i’ve been a bit out of touch lately. i did know about the Malfuz issue, and i too think they should have done a better job, or at least state the reason for doing what they did.
other than that….
———END ABDALQADIR———
so, AbdalQadir focuses on minor issue which is cult-like-activities as he is probably very disturbed to see takfeer from Barelwis which he himself indulges in.
—-BEGIN WORDS BY SENIOR TAKFEERI MODERATOR OF BARELWIPORT BRAZER NOORI MIYAN SAID —-
Madani channel highlights molana ilyas more than what is necessary, it should be a channel to do tableegh, not visual malfuzat of molana ilyas qadri. They only broadcast DI mubaligheen and muftiyan e kiram, you won’t see other ulama on their channel. In thier circles they acknowledge you if you are a DI member, or at least your claddinng suggests that, otherwise i have seen that even those ulama who support them are not given respect they deserve. During the protest against blasphemous video on youtube they kept completly silent (at official level) and even didn’t participate in the rally organised by ulama e ahl e sunnat in Karachi. Some activist replied rallies are not permitted, but they forgot that they sat on streets when Askari park was bieng built and cutting the main street going to markaz e dawat e islami, finally the park had to split into two leaving the road open. You see the books authored, or translated my majlis madinat al ilmiyyah, you will not find authors’ name, but molana ilyas qadri’s name must appear. I personally feel that this is too much self promotion, and unjustice with DI ulame and muftiyan e kiram. Many big figures from DI have broken thier association with them for example bashir faruqi, molana ghulam ghos baghdadi (whose audio tafseer aqdas recommended), and perhapse mufti abu bakar and akmal qadri as well, and there are many others. the main reason perhapse is that molana ilyas qadri is above everything and unquestionable. I have seen big scholars and they don’t go with security, but molana ilyas qadri can’t even pray without protection with guns, and when he goes to visit promonent ulama he goes at midnight (yes i know this).
Deapite all this i respect him, and DI brothers, but can’t close my eyes from what is very obvious.
Hope this explains what i said without being specific.
—-END OF WORDS BY SENIOR TAKFEERI MODERATOR OF BARELWIPORT BRAZER NOORI MIYAN SAID —-
So now, mr. noori barelwi moderator lists the cult like activities
which are summarized
1. “channel highlights molana ilyas more than what is necessary,”
2. “hey only broadcast DI mubaligheen and muftiyan e kiram, you won’t see other ulama on their channel”
3. “[….other..] ulama who support them are not given respect they deserve.”
Now the patsy
4. “During the protest against blasphemous video on youtube they kept completly silent (at official level) and even didn’t participate in the rally organised by ulama e ahl e sunnat in Karachi.”
ohh, so they should take the same hukm like those who took for the blasphemous video according to your AlooHazrat Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi , check with your barelwiport mawlana rampuri
5. “You see the books authored, or translated my majlis madinat al ilmiyyah, you will not find authors’ name, but molana ilyas qadri’s name must appear”
Jealousy hasad and malice a trademark of barelwis.
6. “feel that this is too much self promotion and unjustice”
what about the self promotion by you guys ? I feel the same way about you clowns !
7. “Many big figures from DI have broken thier association with them for example bashir faruqi, molana ghulam ghos baghdadi….and perhapse mufti abu bakar and akmal qadri as well, and there are many others”
oops, why did they ? was it because the cult-like-activities described by brazer noori barelwi or something more to it ?
8. “molana ilyas qadri is above everything and unquestionable”
what’s wrong if Babaji Ilyas Attari is following the footsteps of AlooHazrat Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi. Isn’t your AlooHazrat Ahmed Rida Khan Barelwi also above everything and unquestionable, prove that he is not by publishing 100 mistakes of him. Prove that Ahmad Raza Khan was normal person who made dozens of mistakes and not like how the shites claim infallible for their scholars. Prove that if you are truthful.
9. “but can’t close my eyes from what is very obvious.Hope this explains what i said without being specific.”
True you were not very specific…lol
Noori barelwi bhai gets confirmation from UNBEKNOWN
———BEGIN————-
personal opinion. as i’ve mentioned earlier i sometimes find it hard to maintain husn-dhann but its getting harder now-a-days. i dunno if other people have noticed this but i feel that lately there’s been a steep rise in the praise heaped upon mawlana ilyas qadri on madani channel. i do not say that he doesn’t deserve praise but just that they’re going heavy on it. sometimes i squirm out of embarrassment on hearing certain things and sometimes it gets annoying and it seems as though DI is being promoted at the sole road to heaven.
i’m glad that brother Noori spoke out frankly. not glad that he had to do that
——–END UNBEKNOWN———-
Then Barelwi Taalib-e-Ilm comments
———-BEGIN TAALIB-e-ILM———
I accept some of Taajush Shariahs murids are extreme. They say that mawlana ilyas is not a sunni and what not. But the truth is, it’s not all of the murids, it’s just a select few dotted around the globe which give azhari miya and his other murids a bad name. It’s a small minority. BUT most of the murids of mawlana ilyas are extreme in the sense that their mentality is “it’s DI way or the Highway.”
In hadayiq e bakshish, they removed sheyrs refuting wahabis or changed the words from “wahabi” to “munafiq”. They even removed entire poems such as sar suey roza jhuka. My question is that DI boast about following the mission of ala hazrat but a large part of the mission of ala hazrat was doing radd of the misguided sects. Some Murids even swear allamah sahib and azhari miya for saying video and photo are impermissible.
But my point is, some of azhari Miyas murids are extreme and azhari miya has spoken against them. A lot of DI members do wrong things and have a cultish mentality but I am yet to see a refutation of them by mawlana ilyas.
——————END-
So, this is the Barelwi circus show , khawarij doing takfir of khawarij or Barelwis doing takfir of other barelwis
If you guys have such more nice entertaining stories where we can teach our sunni brothers/sisters about Barelwism and its dangers of takfeer. please do share. You guys have my email.
Just realized that for Point #8 . “molana ilyas qadri is above everything and unquestionable”
what’s wrong if Babaji Ilyas Attari is following the footsteps of AlooHazrat Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi. Isn’t your AlooHazrat Ahmed Rida Khan Barelwi also above everything and unquestionable, prove that he is not by publishing 100 mistakes of him. Prove that Ahmad Raza Khan was normal person who made dozens of mistakes and not like how the shites claim infallible for their scholars. Prove that if you are truthful.
100 mistakes … well here is a discount of 90% , just 10 mistakes will be fine. show us only 10 mistakes and we will admit your honesty, sincerity and truthfulness otherwise you have no right to slander baba ji ( as you guys call him )
Breaking News !!!
Babaji Ilyas Attari Barewi responds
We kindly request Abu Hasan Rampuri or Takfeerpuri to translate for us the reply of Babaji ilyas Attari Baraylawi al-Ridawi
Excellent Refutation of Keller’s Iman, Kufr & Takfir
Click to access the-killer-mistake.pdf
Excellent refutation? Lol! Who are you trying to kid? It’s a load of rubbish. It’s just about as “excellent” a “refutation” as the posts of the Wahhabi Abul Hussain al-Muppet in the comments section to this post. Barelwis and Wahhabis are like a left and a right shoe – symmetrical in their ignorance and stubbornness.
Shaykh Nuh Keller’s comments are spot on. May Allah preserve him.
“Barelwis and Wahhabis are like a left and a right shoe – symmetrical in their ignorance and stubbornness.” ….. Then what you call your “Great Elders” of Deoband, who invited recently the Imam of Haram Shareef (Who is a Najdi/ staunch follower of Ibn Abdul Wahhab Najdi) to your cult’s Headquarter in the Indian Peninsula (Darul Uloom Deoband) & who hails this seminary because of it’s being their right hand in this part of world.
How does this not prove that your “Great Elders” are not symmetrical in their ignorance to Najdis/Wahhabis.
Also try to know then the comments of the founding father of Deobandiyyat Rashid Ahmed Gangohi ji & Kandhalwis (Inventor of Tableeghi Jamaat) about Ibn Abdul Wahhab Najdi.
Thumbs up sunni brother!
Brothers I want to present a very important Hadith, our beloved Prophet (peace be upon him) has mentioned two major signs of the Munafiqeen.
We should study this Hadith and try to find out who these Munafiqeen are.
According to the Hadith people who stamp the believers as “mushrik” are Khaarji/munafiq.
Two features of those Khaarji’s are mentioned in the Hadith.
1) Killing the believers.
2) Labeling them with idolatry (shirk).
The Hadith is as following: عن حذیفۃ بن یمان رضی اللہ عنہ
قال رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ و سلم: ان مما اتخوف علیکم رجل قرء القرآن حتیٰ اذا رءیت بھجتہ علیہ و کان رداءہ الاسلام،اعتراہ الی ما شاء اللہ، انسلخ منہ و نبذہ ورآء ظھرہ و سعی علی جارہ بالسیف و رماہ بالشرک۔ قال، قلت: یا نبیّ اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ و سلم ایھما اولیٰ بالشرک، المرمی او الرامی؟ قال صلی اللہ علیہ و سلم: بل الرامی
The Noble Companion Huzaifa ibn Yaman (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated: The Holy Prophet (Allah give him peace and blessings) said: One of the things I fear about you (believers) is that a person who will read the Quran to the point that its beauty will be visible on his outward and his mantle will be Islam, Allah will make him wander to what He wills. That person will step out of Deen and will throw it behind his back. He will kill his (Muslim) neighbor and accuse him of idolatry (shirk).
Huzaifa ibn Yaman (may Allah be pleased with him) said: who out of those two will be more eligible for idolatry (shirk)? The accused or the accuser? The Holy Prophet (Allah give him peace and blessings) answered: OF COURSE THE ACCUSER!
1) Tafseer Ibne Kaseer verse# 175 to 177 Surah الاعراف
2) Kanz ul Ummaal Hadith # 8985
3) Musnad Shamiyyeen page #254
I uploaded the scnas of these books:
Musnad Shamiyyeen:
http://s896.photobucket.com/user/Qadrishah/library/reference/musnad%20shamiyyeen
Tafseer Ibne Kaseer:
http://s896.photobucket.com/user/Qadrishah/library/reference/ibne%20kaseer
Allama sawi also mentioned in his book Tafseer e Sawi something about these Khaarjies and mentioned them by name:
http://s896.photobucket.com/user/Qadrishah/media/314169_191067674360321_2058835240_n_zps8fba0651.jpg.html
A Khaarji is someone who steps out of the Deen and such a person is indeed a Kafir, but if that person insists to be a believer then such a person is called a “Munafiq” hypocrite.
Take a look and you will understand what this Hadith says.
This Hadith is a challenge for those who label the Ahle Sunnah as Mushrikeen. What did the prophet (peace be upon him) say? If one accuses another as Kafir and the accused one is not a kafir then the kufr will return on the accuser.
No doubt that the people who label the believers as Mushrik (the hardest form of kufr) are Kafir themselves.
What is the issue then? They accused almost every Sunni as a mushrik and Mujjaddid Imam Ahmad Raza Khan Qadri gave a fatwa against them and declared them as kafir, other Ulama followed him and certified his fatwa. Ulama from arab countries also agreed with him.
Keep in mind that the first fatwa issued by Mujjaddid Imam Ahmad Raza Khan Qadri against the deobandies was after they were accusing the Ahle Sunnah of shirk for 30 years!!!!!
Should one still be silent?????
They are the terrorists who have no way but killing innocent people around the world.
If you take a look at the history of Ibne Abdul Wahhaab Najdi and study how they came into power you will no doubt understand what this Hadith says.
I hereby challenge all Wahabi/Salafi/Deobandi and all other sects who accuse the Ahle Sunnah of shirk to debate with me on the Hadith i mentioned above.
Until now none has accepted this challenge, they keep turning the meanings of the verses of Quran and Hadith but fail to explain this Hadith.
Greatly Said …!!! Still … No Najdi has come forward.
Sir, Ahmad Raza said that All Muslims are kafirs. He said that a salah before a Waahabi Imam makes a person Murtad. So, According to Ahmad Raza, thousands of Muslims who are offering Hajj are Murtads. This immense Takfir is an attribute of Kharijites.
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Aslamualikum I think shaykh nuh keller have not gone through the urdu books of deobandi scholars in which they have written matters which even a general man can understand is an insult to our beloved prophet…sallallaho ta’ala alihi wasallam..
Lol wow this Abel Hussain has really got it in for Barelwis. There is nothing in the links provided to back up his claims. May Allah expose such Dajjal liars decievers. Fitnah monger.