A Reply to the Innovator Owais Qadri


Owais Qadri in his usual Barelwi rants (learned from his elders) accused Mawlana Rashid Ahmad Gangohi of deeming the eating of crow as rewardable. The accusation has been replied to in a youtube video:

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16 Responses to A Reply to the Innovator Owais Qadri

  1. ismail says:

    Brother I wanted to invite you to a munazara with the sunni ulema pls email me of when this can be arranged face to face munazara??

  2. ismail says:

    i havent had a reply from you yet?? as i posted a comment on 06 feb ??

    • Abdullah says:

      There is no need for a munazara. Plenty of books have been written on this issue. Any sincere person can study them.

      • ismail says:

        i think a muazara is relevant on the subjects you are delivering on the website but you seem to be studying and not undertanding the books you read, so as mentioned the fatwa against the deobandi scholars is given by over 50 scholars throughout saudi arabia and india, so it was not just imam ahmed raza (radi allhu anh), so i suggest you stop criticising imam ahmed raza, and come for a muazara to resolvew these issues
        i await your responce

  3. Nasrullah says:

    It wont be a problem I guess. Just visit an ahle haq forum like http://www.sunniforum.com and start a thread over any topic that you want to do a munaazara upon. Moreover, please maintain decorum, haya and dont use filthy language. A lot of users supporting barelwism, after they get some rational, good answers and find it tough to handle, and end up getting banned. So dont cry afterwards if that happens because of ur own wrongdoing.

    Moreover, as for public munaazara, please read munaazara with barelwis book by hazat maulana manzoor sab nomani rah. You can find it at http://www.islamicbookslibrary.wordpress.com . There are many other audios of munaazaras of our elders with you folks which you can google out, inshAllah.

    The brother is doing amazing work through this website. Let him focus on the task at hand rather than your dubious calls for munaazra. Moreover, you can also use the comments section to do your munaazra, with logical points against whats being said ( and remember, all thats being written on this blog is reported from akaabireen of ummat, so you dont have much of a case). Your 50 scholars in saudi arabia thing is a despicable fabrication that a lot of ppl know. Hope the brother in this blog will tackle that issue in a separate post. How Ahmed Raza used vicious ways and what was the Saudi Scholars’ response.

    • ismail says:

      i gather the way you are displaying filthy words against the ulema of Ahle sunnat wal jammat, theres is only one way to sort out the mess that you are in and the only way is the face to face muazara behind closed doors not for the public to come into the muazara,

      so i await for your reply for a muazara to take place???

      • Nasrullah says:

        You have already been answered, though I am just a reader here. Dont try wasting other’s time if you dont have anything productive to do. Munaazara behind closed doors made me laugh…whats the worth of a munaazra if you are shy of letting the public know? or scared? Anyway, there is no need to answer you anymore as I have addressed a lot of avenues for you to pursue, if you truthfully feel you want to seek or show the truth. The closed doors thing already puts a huge question mark on that intention anyway.

        Nevertheless, try to understand the definition of ahle sunnat wal jamath before applying it to innovators like Ahmed Raza. I already know I am wasting my time, its only for the readers that I felt appropriate to reply you.

      • ismail says:

        All praise is to ALLAH & durrod & salaam to he who there is no prophet after and to his family (sallala ho alhai wasalam))

        if you are a reader why dont you stay as a reader instead of replying to me, i would like the main person in charge of this site to reply and this goes to the main man running this site, so just taje a back seat nasrullah,

        The point that i was making, i am NOT shy i still invite you in an open public munazara.i had the intention that these kind of muazaras are not for the ((awaam)) public, but i think you are wasting my time also,, as already you guys have REJECTED the invitiation of a munazara twice, It is only for the readers that i am still inviting you to a face to face munazara to dicuss these issues and the lies you seem to be writing on this particular website,TWICE you have rejected the muazara invite, so i request the readers of this website that read the book HUSSAAMUL HARAMAIN AL-KUFR WAL MAIN IN WHICH the original text is displayed in arabic by the ulama of mecca mukramah & medina munawwara, in which the so called deoabndi scholars have been given the fatwa of kufr,

  4. Nasrullah says:

    The takfir of Hussamal harmain is already being dealt so no need of bringing it up. It will only expose the deceit and filthy fabrication that Ahmad Raza attempted against the righteous akaabir ulema. One can get them under the category “Hussam_al_haramain” in the categories section.

    The rest of your post doesnt carry any weight as enough avenues etc. have been given from a reader’s point of view, and I have intervened only because you were trying to slander the righteous scholars.

  5. Nasrullah says:

    All you have is the above 3 points, huh…even a layman with the knowledge of Ahmed Raza’s despicable deceit in this case knows how the above 3 points were distorted, fabricated and lied about…leaving behind the whole contexts and picking up parts of statements in some cases…because there was already the ulterior motive, as it seems, to defame.

    Go get something more credible…and read those books directly instead of taking your barelwi elders’ versions…perhaps you will also get some hidayath out of the noor by reading the deobandi elders’ books directly….

    Also read the other books which record the response of the respected ulema of arab and how they reverted their decisions after coming to know of the reality of what deobandi elders said and how they were angry at Ahmed Raza for twisting truth to fulfill his filthy ambition (Its so ironic that these days a lot of barelwis end up slandering and saying filthy words on the respected imams of Madina because they dont let the shirkiya practices of barelwis to happen there…talking about the respected imams of makkah and madina…a bundle of paradoxes and lies)….

    and be careful with takfir, bro…you will end up having it return upon yourself, with more vigor in this case as you are attempting to do it against the akaabireen and ahlullah.

    May Allah swt guide you on the right path.

    • ismail says:

      nasrullah why you delete my previous post this is the truth thats why you deleted the post let the public read what the truth is as mentioned below, that is if you are not ashamed

      The Fatwa of Kufr Was issued on the insolent deobandi maulvis by ulama of haramain tayabain ((the holy cities of mecca and madina))
      This fatwa was issued in 1320 ah (1900ad) by the saliheen ulama of haram sharif and the great holy places before the present saudi wahhabi najdi forced themselves into power.

      The subject that has been given the Islamic sentence of KUFR are those insolent and degrading statements written by the deobandi maulvis who have clearly insulted the Holy Prophets muhammad(sallalahu alahi wasallam) dignity and character

      THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS HAVE BEEN THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED AND ISSUED WITH THE FATWA OF KUFR

      1) Statements from the book BAHARAIN E QATIA stating that satan and malikul mauts knowledge is more than the Holy Prophets (sallalahu alahi wasallam) proof exist for this for satan but not for Holy Prophet (sallalahu alahi wasallam), Also it is not shirk to believe this for satan but it is shirk to believe the same for the Holy Prophet (sallalahu alahi wasallam)written by khalil ahmed ambethwi and certified and embossed by rashid ahmed gangohi also same agreement in his book of FATAWA E RASHEEDIA

      2)statement from the book HIFZUL IMAAN stating that Holy Prophet (sallalahu alahi wasallam) knowlege of the unseen (ilme e ghaib) is the same as zaid or amar or children, madmen, animals and four legged beasts, written by ASHRAF AKI THANVI SAHIB,

      3) statment from the book TAHZEERUN NASS , stating that there is a possibility of there being another prophet after the Holy Prophet (sallalahu alahi wasallam) , written by qasim nanotwi
      THE ABOVE BOOKS MENTIONED WERE VERY CARFULLY SCRUTINSIZED INVOLVING YEARS OF INVESTIGATION THIS BEING 30 YEARS FOR TAHZEERUN NASS, 16 YEARS FOR BAHARAIN QATIA, AND OVER 1 YEAR FOR HIFZUL IMAAN DURING THIS TIME LETTERS WERE WRITTEN AND MESSAGES WERE SENT ASKING THE DEOBANDI MAULVIS TO EITHER GIVE VALID REASONS OR RENOUNCE THEIR STAEMENTS AND PERFORM TAUBA (ASK FOR FORGIVNESS)

      BUT NO ANSWERS WERE EVER GIVEN AND SO THERFORE IMAM AHMED RAZA (RADI ALLAHU ANH)HAD BUT NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE BUT TO ISSUE ASHRAF ALI THANVI,

      RASHID GANGOHI, KHALIL AMBETHWI AND QASIM NANOTHWI WITH THE FATWA OF KUFR (SENTENCE OF DISBELIF)CLEARLY DEFINING THAT THESE MALVIS ARE KAFIRS.

      THIS FATWA WAS PRESENTED TO THE GREAT ULAMA AND ISLAMIC JURIST OF HARAMAIN TAYAABAIN TO ASK THEIR OPINION, THIRTY TREE ULAMA OF MECCA AND MADINAH GAVE THEIR VERDICT THAT THESE DEOBANDIS MAULVIS HAD DEFINITELY PERFOMRED KUFR

      • Bhai u seem to hv forgotten tht im jst a reader here and cant delete your posts…but then do u think the moderators will allow u to post a single thng tht u wanted to say on several posts? Moreover, i have answered ur above comment in my own modest way, above. Just be careful about ur own eemaan bro…u have placed it under formidable danger by calling ahlullah and akaabir with kufr…may Allah swt bless u with hidayath and ofcourse, in general, me and the rest of the ummah.

      • ismail says:

        masah ALLAH, may ALLAH guide you and the moderators and jst abit of advice, when you write ALLAH name, please write in full subhan watal’la instead of jst writing (swt) as in my eyes this is very (disrespectful) pease bear this in mind

  6. ismail says:

    *edit*, please comment on the video and the arguments. Your points have been already addressed.

  7. nhadatquan2 says:

    nhadatquan2…

    […]A Reply to the Innovator Owais Qadri « Barelwis: A Critical Review[…]…

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