Some challenges to Abu Hasan of Masabih Forums Regarding his Book, “The Killer Mistake”


In this post, we challenge Abu Hasan to substantiate some of the claims he made in his recent book, “The Killer Mistake.” We will only ask him to substantiate two statements that he made in this book. If he cannot, then let him and his blind followers remember what he himself wrote in this book: “May the damnation of Allāh táālā be upon liars.”

[For the rest of us, these examples serve as further evidence that Abu Hasan has imbibed the qualities of deception and lying displayed so strikingly by his ‘grand master’, Ahmad Rida Khan Barelwi]

Challenge 1

On page 100, Abu Hasan writes: “What Khalīl had said was that the encompassing knowledge of the earth is proven for Satan but unproven for RasūlAllāh.”

Challenge: Substantiate that Mawlānā Khalīl Ahmad Sahāranpūrī said that “encompassing knowledge of the earth” is proven for Satan.

{Note: Nowhere does Mawlānā Khalīl Ahmad Sahāranpūrī say encompassing knowledge of earth is proven for Satan. He only affirms “extensive” knowledge of the earth for Satan based on the evidences provided by his opponent. Never does he affirm “encompassing knowledge.” This is, in fact, one of the lies of Ahmad Ridā Khān Barelwī, which Abu Hasan has rehashed here.}

Challenge 2

On page 118, Abu Hasan writes: “Tawassul of Awliyā’ / Prophets [is] Bid‘ah/Shirk according to elders [of Deoband].”

Challenge: Prove that Tawassul is Bid‘ah or Shirk according to the elders of Deoband.

{Note: Even Shāh Ismā‘īl – who is technically NOT an elder of Deoband – allowed Tawassul in Taqwiyatul Imān. He said in Taqwiyatul Imān: “But if it is said, ‘O Allah, give me for the sake of Shaykh ‘Abd al-Qadir’, then this is allowed.” (Taqwiyat al-Iman, p.123) – which Salafis conveniently omit in their translations.

And the Deobandi elders clearly pronounced the permissibility of tawassul in al-Muhannad, quoting from Mawlānā Gangohī himself: “According to us and according to our mashāyikh taking a means (tawassul) in supplications through Prophets and the righteous, from the Friends, martyrs and truthful saints, is permissible during their lifetime and after their death, in that one says: ‘O Allah! I take so-and-so as a means to You that you accept my supplication and You accomplish my need,’ etc. as stated by our shaykh and our master, Shāh Muhammad Ishāq al-Dehlawī thumma al-Muhājir al-Makkī; and then our shaykh and our master, Rashīd Ahmad al-Gangohi – Allah’s mercy on them – clarified it in his Fatāwā, which is in this time widespread and well-circulated in the hands of people, and this issue is mentioned on page 93 of the first volume of it, so whoever wishes may refer to it.”}

Update: Noori, senior moderator on the Barelwi forum, replies: “Khalil said ‘ilm e muhit zamin ka’, did he not use the word muhit?” The challenge was to prove that this “encompassing” knowledge was affirmed for Satan – which is what Abu Hasan claimed -, not that Mawlana Khalil Ahmad Saharanpuri merely used the word. Hence, challenge still stands.

Update 2: After the above update, Noori sneakily added another sentence to his post (which was not there in the original post): “He said ‘shaytan o malik al-mawt ko yeh wus’at nas say sabit hoi’, which wusa’t? That is ‘ilm e muhit zamin ka’.” Incorrect. ‘Ilm muhit zamin ka (encompassing knowledge of the world) is used in Barahin Qati’ah for the hypothetical knowledge that is mistakenly affirmed for RasulAllah (sallAllahu ‘alayhi wasallam) based on a false analogy with Satan/Malak al-Mawt (not “Malik al-Mawt” by the way). It is not the knowledge affirmed for Satan. The knowledge affirmed for Satan is the “expansive” knowledge proven in the book that is being refuted (Anwar Sati’ah) i.e. being present with most of the children of Adam. The “expanse” of Satan’s knowledge is already assumed in the passage, as the sentence starts, “Seeing the condition [i.e. expansive earthly knowledge as shown in Anwar Sati’ah] of Satan and Angel of Death” – even before “encompassing knowledge” is mentioned. One can refer to the original book, and clearly see that this is the case. Both challenges, therefore, still stand.

Update 3: Abu Hasan has replied here. I’ll ignore the excess and filth. But what it boils down to is the same thing that Noori said, which has been addressed in “Update 2” above. I see no point in repeating. Anyhow, does that mean Abu Hasan is conceding he lied on the second issue above, which they seem to have conveniently skipped?

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17 Responses to Some challenges to Abu Hasan of Masabih Forums Regarding his Book, “The Killer Mistake”

  1. Abul Hussain says:

    Barelwi Moderator Noori of deviant-barelwi port forum commented and made a mockery out of himself :

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    He said : http://www.sunniport.com/masabih/showthread.php?t=11202&page=5

    Quote:
    On page 100, Abu Hasan writes: “What Khalīl had said was that the encompassing knowledge of the earth is proven for Satan but unproven for RasūlAllāh.”

    Challenge: Substantiate that Mawlānā Khalīl Ahmad Sahāranpūrī said that “encompassing knowledge of the earth” is proven for Satan.

    {Note: Nowhere does Mawlānā Khalīl Ahmad Sahāranpūrī say encompassing knowledge of earth is proven for Satan. He only affirms “extensive” knowledge of the earth for Satan based on the evidences provided by his opponent. Never does he affirm “encompassing knowledge.” This is, in fact, one of the lies of Ahmad Ridā Khān Barelwī, which Abu Hasan has rehashed here.}
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    Strange challenge, seems some sort of solice for deobandi juhala. See page 168, the original text is given with translation. Allahu akbar, such a zeal to defend kufr. I would like to say in manzur nomani’s words with some little change, “agar deobandi na hotay to mairay liay madinah kay munafiqon ko samjhna bohat mushkil hota”

    Khalil said ‘ilm e muhit zamin ka’, did he not use the word muhit? He said ‘ shaytan o malik al-mawt ko yeh wus’at nas say sabit hoi’, which wusa’t? That is ‘ilm e muhit zamin ka’. O doebandi, fear that you’l be raised as akafir with anmbethvi, who you are making fool of? It is you yourslef, may Allah guide you, or humiliate you in this world and in akhirah if you remain such a munafiq.

    Following is a quick look from dictionaries;

    Al-mawrid: muhit:comprehensive, inclusive, thorough, all-inclusive; general, universal, complete, total

    Firoz al-lughat:ihata karnay wala, ghairnay wala

    Dictionary.com:
    encompass
    — verb (used with object)

    to form a circle about; encircle; surround: He built a moat to encompass the castle.
    to enclose; envelop: The folds of a great cloak encompassed her person.
    to include comprehensively: a work that encompasses the entire range of the world’s religious beliefs.

    It is very clear that the deobandi couldn’t find any other problem with the book.

    It is also quite funny that the deobandi didn’t notice or mention that anmbethvi’s quote is translated as he suggests, therefore nothing is wrong with the translation on 168 even as per his stupid and putrid understanding, so the question to the deobandi is, is it still not kufr?

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    hey takfiri-khariji-barelwi, did you forget Sayyid Muhammad Alawi Maliki or Shaykh Barzanji ? Were they kaafirs too ?

  2. Abul Hussain says:

    A Gift for Barelwi Chamcha Abdal-Qadir ( a takfiri follower of barelwi deviancy ) , I don’t remember him replying to any of articles which showed the deviancy of his takfiri-khariji master AlooHazrat Ahmed Rida Khan , does he need a reminder ?

    “A woman is capable of committing fornication. Then according to the opinion of your leader and teacher, it is necessary that your God too should be capable of committing fornication – otherwise the prostitutes of the brothers of the Deobandi’s would laugh at Him and say: ‘How do you claim for Godhead? You are not capable of doing which even we can do?’ This naturally implies that your God must possess a female sexual organ – otherwise where will be the sexual intercourse?”
    (Ahmad Raza Khan in his Subhan al-Subbuh. P. 142) .

    “He who doubts about the unbelief of the Deobandi’s is also an unbeliever.”
    (Ahmad Raza Khan in his Fatawa Ridwiyya, 6/82)

    “If anyone has the same beliefs as the Deobandi’s have, he is also an unbeliever.”
    (Ahmad Raza Khan in his Fatawa Ridwiyya, 6/43)

    “If anyone prays behind anyone of the Deobandi’s, he is also not a Muslim.”
    (Ahmad Raza Khan in his Fatawa Ridwiyya, 6/77)

    “Any person who doubts the kufr of these people (Deobandis) will themselves become kaafirs!” (See the preface to Ahmad Raza Khan’s Tamheed-e-Iman, p. v, by the South African Barelvi who called himself the “Khadim-e-Raza: servant of Rida Khan”, Mohammed Bana, dated 19/10/87)

    “Any person who would not call them (Deobandis) disbelievers or would maintain friendship with them, or would take into consideration their positions as teachers or relatives or friends will also definitely become one of them. He is a disbeliever like them. On the Day of Judgement, he will also be tied with them in the same rope. Whatever lame excuses and fraudulent arguments they give here are invalid and false.”
    (Ahmad Rida Khan in his Tamheed-e-Iman)

    “If anyone admires Darul Ulum Deoband, or does not believe in the corruption of the Deobandi’s and does not scorn them, then this is sufficient to make a judgement for him to be a Non-Muslim!”
    (Ahmad Raza Khan in his Fatawa Ridwiyya, 6/43)

    “If there is a gathering of Hindu’s, Christian’s, Qadiyani’s and Deobandi’s, the Deobandi’s alone should be rejected, for they have come out of the fold of Islam and defected from it. Agreement with the unbelievers is far better than the agreement with the apostates!!”
    (Ahmad Raza Khan in his Malfuzat pp. 325-6)

    “The works of the Deobandi’s are more unclean than the various works of the Hindu’s. The doubt about the heresy of Ashraf Ali Deobandi and suspicion about his punishment is also unbelief. To cleanse the impurity with the papers of the works produced by the Deobandi’s is not lawful, not because of the respect for their books, but because of the reverence of the letters with which they have been written.”
    (Ahmad Raza Khan in his Fatawa Ridwiyya, 2/136)

    “The Wahhabi’s are more contemptuous than Iblis, indeed more mischievous and more straying than he, for the Shaytan does not tell a lie, but they tell a lie!!”
    (Ahmad Raza Khan in his Ahkam-e-Shariat (p. 112)

    • Abul Hussain says:

      May be he needs to check the old posts like this one
      https://barelwism.wordpress.com/2013/05/21/barelvi-pir-has-a-wrestling-match-with-allah/#comments

      https://barelwism.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/a-follow-up-on-abu-hasans-errors/#comments

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      a cheerleader for that site, the zindiq mal3oon who calls himself abulhussain chimes on here:

      https://barelwism.wordpress.com/2013/05/19/a-follow-up-on-abu-hasans-errors/#comment-892

      without directly answering the question like a shareef aadmi, as expected, the zindiq dances around it by quoting someone else and as usual his usual propaganda against Ala Hazrat.

      what bigger proof of our no-compromise on Sunni 3aqidah does the shaytan need than our booting away of the padri tahir

      in any case i haven’t seen that quote by this Mawlana Muini Shah Jamali, and this devdas site is the first i have read of him. not that they will have any decency or shame and come up with a direct response, even if their ‘query’ is entertained, but just for the sake of the truth, can someone please have a look at this page

      https://barelwism.wordpress.com/2013/05/21/barelvi-pir-has-a-wrestling-match-with-allah/

      which abulhussain asks our feedback on before he will supposedly issue a direct answer in regards to the tariq jameel quote, and elaborate further on who this mawlana is, if he is even from Ala Hazrat’s khulafaa or not, and what he said, and if at all he is being lied against by the shayateen or if he is indeed guilty of tajseem and tashbeeh.

      —–end quote of barelwi chamcha——

      one should ask Abdal-Qadir what does it mean a Shareef Admi ?
      “without directly answering the question like a shareef aadmi, as expected, the zindiq dances around it”
      “zindiq mal3oon”

      but wait a minute, Abdal-Qadir is actually shareef aadmi compared to AlooHazrat Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi

      “If there is a gathering of Hindu’s, Christian’s, Qadiyani’s and Deobandi’s, the Deobandi’s alone should be rejected, for they have come out of the fold of Islam and defected from it. Agreement with the unbelievers is far better than the agreement with the apostates!!”
      (Ahmad Raza Khan in his Malfuzat pp. 325-6)

      “The works of the Deobandi’s are more unclean than the various works of the Hindu’s. The doubt about the heresy of Ashraf Ali Deobandi and suspicion about his punishment is also unbelief. To cleanse the impurity with the papers of the works produced by the Deobandi’s is not lawful, not because of the respect for their books, but because of the reverence of the letters with which they have been written.”
      (Ahmad Raza Khan in his Fatawa Ridwiyya, 2/136)

      “The Wahhabi’s are more contemptuous than Iblis, indeed more mischievous and more straying than he, for the Shaytan does not tell a lie, but they tell a lie!!”
      (Ahmad Raza Khan in his Ahkam-e-Shariat (p. 112)

      But I will leave Abdal-Qadir enjoy the fancy stories of his aloohazrat start with this one

      special bonanza at 1:58 for Abdal-Qadir from the unique research of Aloohazrat Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi

      then if he is still not satisfied then he can enjoy part II of the unique research

      and part III which even the biggest barelwi scholar failed to address

  3. Abul Hussain says:

    Takfiri Khariji Barelwis couldn’t hold themselves and started spewing their lies as usual following their master AlooHazrat Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi

    said abu Nibras
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    faqeerkhan,

    you were waiting for Tkm since 2010, now that you have it, you are not posting academic responses
    I am disappointed in you. if I take away copy-paste you will shoot blanks.

    Maybe if you were in mawlana abu Hasan’s guidance, maybe you would have gotten a chance to, and found guidance cleaning his shoes ? you can still apply.

    the reposting and frothing of the mouths of zameel and faqeerkhan only confirms that

    woh raza ke nezey ki maar hai, ke `aduw ke seene meiN ghaar hai
    kisey chaara juuiy ka waar hai, ke yeh waar waar se paar hai

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    No, I wasn’t waiting for TKM , ( BTW TKM is just trash work ) and as for academic responses, may be this will remind you mr. foul-mouthed barelwi : http://web.archive.org/web/20030421085250/http://ahnaaf.tripod.com/

    which you know it pretty well. This is since 1997/1998 and now we are in 2013 , so where is the response ?

    Then the heretics and zanadiqa were asked to reply to this book :
    Mut’ala-e-Barelwiyyat (Study on the Barelvi’s) – this is the most definitive work on the history and beliefs of the Barelvi’s from the Indian subcontinent. It is in 5 volumes and contains some 2000 pages of information and rebuttal’s of Barelvism, its leaders, allegations and beliefs. It is by Dr Khalid Mahmud (MA PhD), Director of the Islamic Academy, Manchester, England. Published in Urdu by Darul Ma’arif, Urdu Bazar, Lahore.

    Still no response. But i like the way how Mr. Abu Hasan Barelwi Rampuri/Takfeeripuri has climbed the snakes and ladder like Tim Winters / Hanson , he was abu hasan , then became br. abu hasan , then Sidi Abu Hasan , Shaykh Abu Hasan and now Mawlana Abu Hasan ? LoL , this is the barelwi joke of the decade, the clueless person doesn’t even know proper arabic and made several blunders which was caught red handed and this blog documented all his serious mistakes and how did you guys made him mawlana ? has he started taking murids too , trying to make quick money or what ?

    Oh, sorry, Guidance (Hidayah) is from Allah, we don’t attribute guidance to creation. I don’t know what sub-sect of barelwism you follow but Allah swt cleary says in reference to His noble Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam : “Indeed, [O Muhammad], you do not guide whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills. And He is most knowing of the [rightly] guided.” [Surat al-Qasas, 28:56]
    This verse is refutation of many barelwi heresies and I know you guys will try to pull like yahuud try to hide such verses from the ignorant masses or deny it like Jahmiyyah. So, we say, Abu Hasan Ridawi aptly put in his right place cleaning and changing the diapers of animals in the zoo and abu nibras, abdul-qadir, noori, and other chaley and chamchey ………………………

    so abu nibras said:
    woh raza ke nezey ki maar hai, ke `aduw ke seene meiN ghaar hai
    kisey chaara juuiy ka waar hai, ke yeh waar waar se paar hai
    which he forgets that :
    “KOI KYA PUCHE TERI BAAT RAZA TUJH SE KUTTE HAZAR PHIRTE HAIN”
    so the new couplet would be

    woh kuttey[dog] ke nezey ki maar hai, ke `aduw ke seene meiN ghaar hai
    kisey chaara juuiy ka waar hai, ke yeh waar waar se paar hai

    dog could hit other dogs only at the zoo where you guys are to be found.

    i forgot to mention, if you recall, my earlier posts where the barelwi takfiri machine went out of control and inter-barelwi-sectarian problems between Baba of Dawate-Islami, Sunni Dawate-Islami , Madni miyan , Ashrafi miyan and Turab al-Haq Qadri …… so which barelwi sub sect do you guys belong to ?

    TURAB AL-HAQ QADRI murid of son of AlooHazrat — Mustafa Raza Khan Barelwi has been expelled from Barelwism

    namooserisalat wordpress com

    I believe I have addressed all your points but here is a rejoinder for your pretender quick-n-fast Mawlana Abu Hasan al-Ridawi al-Takfeeri
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    Salam alaykum, concerning the following remarks:

    Ala Hazrat Imam Ahmed Raza Khan [6] False ALLEGATIONS by WAHABIS

    Thanawi accepted the compliments by his mureed that he was a rasul; he insulted Rasul; Khaleel said that shayTaan knew more than Rasul; Gangohi said that Allah could lie; Nanothvi said that a prophet can appear; Ismayil Dahalwi made atrocious remarks on Rasul and awlia if the shari`ah compels him to make takfeer, he as a mufti should. incidentally, these handful are everyone to the blind-followers of the dobs.

    I must say I have not seen clarity or reliable precision in this series of posts, or even basic adab with the scholars of Islam.

    All of the above allegations have to be very carefully and in conscience double-checked in the light of evidence and according to the procedure of Shari`a. At the very least one should quote the exact words of the authority or authorities who leveled those charges against these scholars, as well as the latter’s exact original expressions under dispute, if they exist or if one has real knowledge of them.

    To say: “he who doubts in their kufr (deobandis) is also a kaafir” is completely rejected. Ya hu, Dar al-`Ulum in Deoband is an Islamic university whose curriculum consists entirely in the mothers of books in Sunni `aqida, usul, and fiqh, and which has produced the greatest fuqaha’ and hadith scholars of India since its inception. Are you throwing all these, their students (past and present), us, and the general public who has no idea of these divergences into the Fire with a few casual words?

    Even if this condemnation did not apply to Deobandis, it is still unacceptable to say: “he who doubts in the kufr of X is also a kaafir” except in very, very clearcut cases such as idolatry — we seek refuge in Allah. Even then, there is a difference between the kufr of X in saying a particular statement tantamount to kufr, and his being a kafir. There is a great difference. What about those who are unclear about it for various reasons, such as not ascertaining the exact meaning of X’s words? Are we going to be like Abu al-`Ala’ al-Bukhari who declared: “he who doubts in the kufr of Ibn `Arabi is also a kafir, and he who calls Ibn Taymiyya Shaykh al-Islam is a kafir”? Is it not better to be like Mulla `Ali al-Qari who said that in such cases the best course is silence?

    The rule is: “We do not declare as disbelievers any of the People of the Qibla other than upon denial of a mass-transmitted article of Islamic Law.”

    The Prophet — Allah bless and greet him — called Mu`adh a rasul. Shaytan knows more unbeneficial knowledge than anyone else, including the Prophets. Allah said — in meaning — “And they schemed, and Allah schemed, and Allah is the best of schemers.” That is, He throws back the lies of liars upon them in their own terms. And Allah knows best what the above-named scholars meant in their original remarks.

    What I know about the scholars of India listed above and below is that they are pure Sunnis. They defended tawassul and refuted Salafi innovations on the matter of ziyara of the Prophet — Allah bless and greet him:

    – `Allama muhaddith Rashid Ahmad al-Gangohi (d. 1905 CE) – `Allama muhaddith Khalil Ahmad al-Saharanfuri (d. 1927 CE) – `Allama muhaddith Shaykh Mahmud al-Hasan al-Deobandi – `Allama shaykh Mir Ahmad Hasan al-Husayni – `Allama muhaddith shaykh `Aziz al-Rahman al-Deobandi – `Allama murshid shaykh `Ali Ashraf al-Tahanawi – `Allama shaykh Shah `Abd al-Rahim al-Ranfuri – Shaykh al-Hajj al-Hakim Muhammad Hasan al-Deobandi – Mawlawi Qudrat Allah – Mawlawi mufti Kifayat Allah – `Allama shaykh Muhammad Yahya Saharanfuri

    Their anti-Salafi fatwa on ziyara is available at sunnah org if I remember correctly.

    As for Abu al-Qasim Nanotwi, it is enough credit for him that he stood firmly in the face of the Ahmadiyya heresy.

    As for `Abd al-Hayy al-Lucknawi (d. 1304) who apparently was insulted in another post, he and Ahmad Zufar al-Tahanawi (d. 1393) are the greatest hadith scholars that India has known in the last hundred years, and this Sunni Muslim is definitely innocent of anyone who attacks them. `Abd al-Hayy on ziyara alone wrote three long fatwas in refutation of Ibn Taymiyya.

    Said ashraf `Ali Thanawi listing matters of kufr and shirk in his book Bahishti Zeywar: to do meelad ash-sharif, to visit the graves, to seek help from them etc, are all shirk.

    I do not remember reading the above in my English Bashishti Zewar and I doubt that Ashraf `Ali al-Tahanawi said that to celebrate mawlid or visit the graves is shirk. As for seeking help apart from Allah it is shirk whether from the living or the dead.

    Ashraf `Ali al-Tahanawi wrote a treatise entitled “Nayl al-Shifa’ bi Na`l al-Mustafa” (Obtaining remedy through the sandals of the Elect One) found in his book Zad al-Sa`id (Provision for the fortunate). The muhaddith of India Shaykh Muhammad Zakariyya Kandihlawi said in his English translation of al-Tirmidhi’s Shama’il:

    “Maulana Ashraf `Ali Thanwi Sahib has written in his book Zaadus Sa`eed a detailed treatise on the barakat and virtues of the shoes of Rasulullah Sallallahu `Alayhi Wasallam. Those interested in this should read that book (which is available in English). In short, it may be said that it [the Prophet’s sandal] has countless qualities. The `ulama have experienced it many a time. One is blessed by seeing Rasulullah Sallallahu `Alayhi Wasallam in one’s dreams; one gains safety from oppressors and every heartfelt desire is attained. Every object is fulfilled by its tawassul (means, petition, request). The method of tawassul is also mentioned therein.”

    In his book Nashr al-tib (in Urdu, p. 6 and 215 of the Lahore edition) the same Ashraf Ali Thanwi cites among his evidence the hadith of Jabir: “The first thing that Allah created is the light of the Prophet, Allah bless and greet him” on the authority of `Abd al-Razzaq, and relies upon it.

    Does all this strike the Sunni Muslim as the custom of one who condemns Mawlid or tawassul through the Prophet and awliya? La hawla wa la quwwata illa billah.

    May Allah have mercy on all of them, and may Allah teach us to realize the position of the ulamas of this Community in His presence.

    Takfir of Deobandi Scholar

    With regard to the following reply of Brother Reza Attari to my question about the takfir of certain Deobandis by Imam Ahmad Reza Khan in light of his abstaining from takfir of Shah Isma`il Dehlavi:

    There is no contradiction here. There is no doubt that Imam Ahmed Raza radhiAllahanhu passed such a fatwa on Gangohi, Abethvi and Thanvi.

    When they refused to retract their words, he passed the the fatwa on them. If I am correct in my dates, Molwi Ismail Dehlvi passed away many years before Imam Ahmed Raza Khan’s radhiAllahanu time. Therefore, although Imam Ahmed Raza wrote in his book refuting the writing of Ismail Dehlvi that some of Dehlvi’s writings were of kufr, he did not pass kufr fatwa on the Ismail Dehlvi because dehlvi was deceased and dehlvi could obviously not write some defense or explanation of himself.

    I hope this is more clearer to you now.
    Definitely, thank you.

    I hope that it will be also clear to you, dear Brother Raza, that Sayyid Muhammad ibn `Alawi does not endorse this takfir of Gangohi, as he has a chain of transmission for al-Tirmidhi’s Sunan going back, through his father `Alawi ibn `Abbas, to al-Gangohi, as I stated in my April 28 post titled “al-Gangohi” where I cite that silsila in greater detail.

    As you may know, the narration of a Kafir is not accepted in Hadith
    transmission. If Sayyid Muhammad retained this chain among those he passes down to his students for dissemination, it means he obviously does NOT consider Shaykh Rashid al-Gangohi other than a *faithful and reliable Sunni hadith scholar*.

    Consequently I cannot, any more than my Shaykh, endorse the takfir of Shaykh Rashid al-Gangohi as a valid judgment, nor do I hold any opinion about him other than the favorable judgment I just mentioned.

    Was-Salam.

    Hajj Gibril

    GF Haddad

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    I wonder why no takfeer was done on GF Haddad or was it because the pretender ( barewli riya khor) doesn’t really can show off his knowledge infront of real scholars and would get torn apart ?

    So Die in Rage // Qul mutu bi ghaydikum

    don’t forget to reply to the video clips where it shows from books of AlooHazrat Ahmed Rida Khan Barelwi, his insults and mockery on ……….. talking about being academic , seriously haven’t seen such barelwi clowns in the last 20 years .

    • Abul Hussain says:

      I will try to address some of what the faithful kuttey of Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi as their master himself said in his book ““KOI KYA PUCHE TERI BAAT RAZA TUJH SE KUTTE HAZAR PHIRTE HAIN”

      Senior Barelwi Moderator Noori said:
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      zameel says
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      BTW TKM is just trash work
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      but your post reveals your extreme pain. but wAllahi, it is nothing, the pain which awaits you is way too big.
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      what has mawlanat abu hasan barelwi feeding you guys at the zoo , is it malnutrition or not getting enough dog biscuits ?
      it wasn’t zameel who said that but it was me, how much more lies and deception.

      Senior Barelwi Moderator Noori said:
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      realy funny these people are. Abul hussain quotes all of my replies and then pukes only the following, as if it will cover thier incompetence to deal with the issue.this is all they could reply. Then he demonstrates the language of his deobandi 4fathers, and concludes.you guys can’t even present your case, and you ask to refute you. To all of your filthy abuses we can only say that we understand your pain, you cannot tolerate for a single moment that RasulAllah alaihi afDalussalat wat-tasleem should be defended.
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      Are you guys retarded ? it must the food at the zoo ? incompetence to deal … check my reply to abu nibras regarding 1997/1998

      Senior Barelwi Moderator Noori said:
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      i cannot hold my laugh. the deobandi is getting funnier then ever before.as if i have committed a crime to further elaborate my response by providing what anmbethvi wrote. lolz. to be honest i didn’t see the deobandi updates or even post by nawazuddin until i had finished updating my response. but in any case it doesn’t make any difference. deobandis are shameless people, it runs in their blood. (by the way, this line starting from ‘to be honest…’ was too added after a couple of posts lolz).

      and there is another rabid dog (or perhaps the same guy) barking in comments all the old deobandi nonsense, instead of dealing with the issue.
      strange that you haven’t seen mirror in last 20 years.

      ==========END============.

      Lol, when barelwi moderator got caught red handed with his distortion and lies, he came up with a lame excuse like ‘further elaborate’ then why he didn’t create a new post or mentioned he modified his post, rather just like yahuud, he tried to hide his mistake but miserably failed. who are really shameless people ? the ones caught red handed with mistranslations, misquotation, half-baked knowledge like mawlanat abu hasan ridawi/rampuri/takfeerpuri ??

      as for the rabid dog, the only dog which i know is the one who wrote this ““KOI KYA PUCHE TERI BAAT RAZA TUJH SE KUTTE HAZAR PHIRTE HAIN”
      and the ones who follow him. I wonder if this dog is barking dog bhokney wala kutta or katney wala kuttay with rabies ?
      please clarify ?

      It says in Malfuzat of Ahmad Raza Khan, “Whenever I asked for help, I always said Ya Ghawth. Once I asked help from someone else [i.e. Allah], I could not even utter His name. I only uttered Ya Ghawth with my tongue.”

      no wonder he is AlooHazrat (potato master) and not AlaHazrat (grand master) , AlooHazrat had his ijazas taken while he was on hajj/umrah vacation, he never had any formal ijazas taken like study cover to cover, may be the barelwis can further elaborate on this. Where did AlooHazrat study arabic and where did mawlanat abu hasan rampuri study arabic ? self study ….. and they lament on Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah for who Hanafi hadeeth master Badr al-Din Ayni.
      what do you say about what Hafiz Badr al-Din Ayni al-Hanafi ( the hanafi Muhadith ) said about Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah : Badr al-Din Ayni (d. 855 AH) wrote in the endorsement of ar-Radd al-Waafir of ibn Nasir ad-Din al-Dimashqi (d.842 AH), “” Whoever says ibn Taymiyyah is a kaafir then he is in reality himself a kaafir, and the one who accuses him of heresy is himself a heretic. How is this possible when his works are widely available and there is no hint of deviation or dissension contained therein”

      so the claims of mawlanat abu hasan ridawi that he follows hanafi elders is a pure lie just like he was caught lying, distorting and deceiving on many things ( was the excuse of mistranslation that he had to take a quick leak at the zoo? )

      Mullah Ali Qari al-Hanafi : “I say, may Allah protect both [Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn Qayyim] from this evil sign and heinous attribution. And who will study Sharh Manazil al-Sayirin of Nadim al-Bari Shaykh ‘Abdullah al-Ansari al-Hanbali, may Allah sanctify his secret, Shaykh al-Islam unanimously according to the Sufis, he will come to know both were from Ahl al-Sunna wa al-Jama’ah; rather from amongst the awliya’ of this Ummah.”

      Senior Barelwi SherKhan or KuttaKhan (following AlooHazrat saying above) said:
      ==========START============
      It is strange (actually not really strange since this is their usual artifice)that the deobandi cites Shaykh Alawi Maliki as the alibi for deobandi honour.

      Not long ago deobandis at sunniforum were discussing kufr/shirk/bidah of Shaykh Alawi Maliki here. In particular Shaykh Alawi’s “deviant” beliefs are cited here (notice the strong discordance of Shaykh Alawi’s beliefs vis-a-vis deobandis).
      ==========END============

      to which
      Senior Barelwi Moderator Noori said:
      ==========START============

      if he is more bid’ati than Ahmed Raza Khan Barelwi then why this question?
      Quote:
      Were they kaafirs too ?
      END Quote:
      but, it is not new, deobandies keep changing their positions as the situation demands.
      ==========END============

      It is not about deobandis kept changing their positions , it is called difference of opinions or ijtihad. I don’t kno w if they teach you that at the barelwi circus zoo, ask your mawlanat abu hasan barelwi.

      Just like there was difference of opinion between scholars of Jarh wa Tadeel. Do you remember which Tabeen had heretical and deviant beliefs yet are considered sunnis, Tabeen / tabi tabeen who had Qadari beliefs, khariji beliefs……. This is high stuff, zoo animals can never grasp it, remember the takfir of Shaykh al-Akbar Muhyi al-Din Ibn Arabi by numerous Sunni scholars including Dhahabi and others …..

      i like how the fraudster abu hasan barelwi got promoted to mawlanat so fast ? is he learning that from hanson and TJ winters ? doesn’t want to get left over in the race ?

      • Abul Hussain says:

        but you guys never commented about about the clown Ilyas Qadri Attari

        ====BEGIN SUNNITABLEEGHIJAMAAT===
        Daur-e-haazir me har roz ek naya fitna paida horaha hai jo Aam logon ko Kufr aur gumrahi ki taraf liye jaraha hai. Jahan ek taraf wahabi/deobandi Aur Gair muqallid jaise Gustaakhane Rasool Aur Gustaakhe Awliya, logon ko Bad-Aqeedgi ka Napak Zehen de rahein hain vahin Dusri taraf kuch gumraah tanzeeme jaise Dawat-e-Islami aur Sunni Daawat-e-Islami Maslak-e-Alahazrat ka jhoota naam lekar Maslake Alahazrat ko badnaam kar rahe hai Sath hi sulaahkulliyat ki bimaari Faila rahe hai aur logon ko dhoka derahi hai.
        In Tamam fitno ko phailane wali tehreekon ke dhoke aur fareb ke parda ko faash karne aur Sahi Maane mein Deen-e-Haq jo is Daur me Maslak-e-Alahazrat ke naam se jaana jaata hai….Uski sahi Tarjumaani aur Sahi Maslak Logon ke samne Pesh karne ke liye SunniTableegiJamaat com ka intekhab kiya gaya hai.
        Ye Website All India Sunni Tableegi Jamaat ki Zer-e-Sarparasti me hai.Jise Huzoor Pasbaan-e-Millat Hazrat Allama Mushtaq Ahmed Nizami Sahab(rehmatullahi ta’ala alaih) ne Qayaam kiya tha. All India Sunni Tableegi Jamaat Alhumdulillah takreeban 32 Saalon se Zyada ke arse se Deen ki khidmat anjaam de rahi hai.
        Yaad rahe is tanzeem ke muballig jaahil nahi hote hain, Aalim hona shart hai… Jaisa ke sarkar Alahazrat Imam ahmed Raza Fazil-e-bareilvi (radiyallaho taala anho) ne Fatawa Razawiyya me tehreer farmaya ke” Ghair-Aalim ka Bayan karna aur ghair Aalim se bayan ka sunna Haraam hai”
        Alhumdulillah is par hamaari Jamaat(Sunni Tableegi Jamaat) ka sakhti se amal hai.
        ========END SUNNI TABLEEGHI JAMAAT========

        Then the mufti of Barelwi Akhtar Raza Khan Barelwi gets exposed by other barelwis

        ================START===========
        akhtarrazaexposed blogspot com

        Is Blog ka Maqsad Maslak e Ala Hazrat ke Gaddaron ko exposed karna hai , ye akhtari gaddar log kehte hain ke sirf hamari suno hum hi haq par hain baqi sab gumrah hain , aison ko Dunya ke aagay bay Naqaab karna hai . ye akhtari log Ahle Bait ke Gustakh to hain hi , is ke ssaath saath Ullama e Ahel Sunnat ke bhi gustakh hain aur saath hi mein Sunnaton ki tauheen karne waale bhi hain , is ka proof aap isi blog par dekh sakte hain
        ================END===========

        Then the other barelwis like Noori Miyan, Madani Miyan , Ashrafi Miyan and Irfan Shah Miyan ( busy in gandi khali galowch ) each busy calling other heretic , kafir or biddati….

        arrey wah wah , margeye mardood , bhokna hogaya shuru

        In the book Fawaa’id e Fareediya, written by the Barelwi Mawlana Faqeer Mu’ini Shah Jamali it was said:

        “Hazrat Abul Hasan Kharqani said: In the early morning, Allah wrestled (kuchti) with me, and he threw us down….I am two years younger than our Lord.”
        Barelwis like Abdal-Qadir are in denial and what excuses could they have ? the author was in wajd ( state of intoxication ) or he did not really mean it, or do some taweel , or quoted out of context, no wait it was tampered and there is no isnad for the book. I am out of lame excuses will check with Mukaffir-e-barelwi Irfan shah Mashhadi and come back to you.

        see more here, book cover with quotes
        islamimehfil com/topic/10627-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%DB%81-%D8%B3%DB%92-%DA%A9%D8%B4%D8%AA%DB%8C-%D8%9F-%DA%A9%DB%8C%D8%A7-%D8%9F/

        2 خواجہ غلام فرید چشتی نے لکھا ہے:
        ’’ایک شخص خواجہ معین الدین چشتی کے پاس آیا اور عرض کیا کہ مجھے اپنا مرید بنائیں۔
        فرمایا کہہ لا الٰہ الااللہ چشتی رسول اللہ اللہ کے سوا کوئی معبود نہیں چشتی اللہ کا رسول ہے۔‘‘
        ( فوائدِ فریدیہ ص ۸۳)۔
        خواجہ غلام فرید کی کتاب’’فوائد فریدیہ‘‘ کے متعلق عبد الحکیم شرف قادری نے لکھا:
        ’’مسلکِ توحید اور اعتقادی مسائل پر بہترین کتاب۔‘‘ (تذکر ۂ اکابر اہلسنت ص۳۲۴)۔

        ahlussunnah in/2012/12/

        Keep barking barelwis, not getting enough Dog biscuits at the zoo, may be you will if you start calling Allanat instead of mawlanat.

  4. Lion of Islam Shams uddin says:

    new book by the Sunni scholars on Barelwism , Fatwa from the scholars of United Arab Emirates Abu Dhabi & Dubai

    http://ia600403.us.archive.org/10/items/ahnafmedai-books-arabic/Fatwa_on_Beralwis.pdf

  5. Abul Hussain says:

    I will try to address some of what the faithful kuttey of Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi as their master himself said in his book ““KOI KYA PUCHE TERI BAAT RAZA TUJH SE KUTTE HAZAR PHIRTE HAIN”

    Senior Barelwi Moderator Noori said:
    ==========START============
    zameel says
    Quote:
    BTW TKM is just trash work
    End Quote:
    but your post reveals your extreme pain. but wAllahi, it is nothing, the pain which awaits you is way too big.
    ===========END==============

    what has mawlanat abu hasan barelwi feeding you guys at the zoo , is it malnutrition or not getting enough dog biscuits ?
    it wasn’t zameel who said that but it was me, how much more lies and deception.

    Senior Barelwi Moderator Noori said:
    ==========START============
    realy funny these people are. Abul hussain quotes all of my replies and then pukes only the following, as if it will cover thier incompetence to deal with the issue.this is all they could reply. Then he demonstrates the language of his deobandi 4fathers, and concludes.you guys can’t even present your case, and you ask to refute you. To all of your filthy abuses we can only say that we understand your pain, you cannot tolerate for a single moment that RasulAllah alaihi afDalussalat wat-tasleem should be defended.
    ==========END============

    Are you guys retarded ? it must the food at the zoo ? incompetence to deal … check my reply to abu nibras regarding 1997/1998

    Senior Barelwi Moderator Noori said:
    ==========START============
    i cannot hold my laugh. the deobandi is getting funnier then ever before.as if i have committed a crime to further elaborate my response by providing what anmbethvi wrote. lolz. to be honest i didn’t see the deobandi updates or even post by nawazuddin until i had finished updating my response. but in any case it doesn’t make any difference. deobandis are shameless people, it runs in their blood. (by the way, this line starting from ‘to be honest…’ was too added after a couple of posts lolz).

    and there is another rabid dog (or perhaps the same guy) barking in comments all the old deobandi nonsense, instead of dealing with the issue.
    strange that you haven’t seen mirror in last 20 years.

    ==========END============.

    Lol, when barelwi moderator got caught red handed with his distortion and lies, he came up with a lame excuse like ‘further elaborate’ then why he didn’t create a new post or mentioned he modified his post, rather just like yahuud, he tried to hide his mistake but miserably failed. who are really shameless people ? the ones caught red handed with mistranslations, misquotation, half-baked knowledge like mawlanat abu hasan ridawi/rampuri/takfeerpuri ??

    as for the rabid dog, the only dog which i know is the one who wrote this ““KOI KYA PUCHE TERI BAAT RAZA TUJH SE KUTTE HAZAR PHIRTE HAIN”
    and the ones who follow him. I wonder if this dog is barking dog bhokney wala kutta or katney wala kuttay with rabies ?
    please clarify ?

    It says in Malfuzat of Ahmad Raza Khan, “Whenever I asked for help, I always said Ya Ghawth. Once I asked help from someone else [i.e. Allah], I could not even utter His name. I only uttered Ya Ghawth with my tongue.”

    no wonder he is AlooHazrat (potato master) and not AlaHazrat (grand master) , AlooHazrat had his ijazas taken while he was on hajj/umrah vacation, he never had any formal ijazas taken like study cover to cover, may be the barelwis can further elaborate on this. Where did AlooHazrat study arabic and where did mawlanat abu hasan rampuri study arabic ? self study ….. and they lament on Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah for who Hanafi hadeeth master Badr al-Din Ayni.
    what do you say about what Hafiz Badr al-Din Ayni al-Hanafi ( the hanafi Muhadith ) said about Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah : Badr al-Din Ayni (d. 855 AH) wrote in the endorsement of ar-Radd al-Waafir of ibn Nasir ad-Din al-Dimashqi (d.842 AH), “” Whoever says ibn Taymiyyah is a kaafir then he is in reality himself a kaafir, and the one who accuses him of heresy is himself a heretic. How is this possible when his works are widely available and there is no hint of deviation or dissension contained therein”

    so the claims of mawlanat abu hasan ridawi that he follows hanafi elders is a pure lie just like he was caught lying, distorting and deceiving on many things ( was the excuse of mistranslation that he had to take a quick leak at the zoo? )

    Mullah Ali Qari al-Hanafi : “I say, may Allah protect both [Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn Qayyim] from this evil sign and heinous attribution. And who will study Sharh Manazil al-Sayirin of Nadim al-Bari Shaykh ‘Abdullah al-Ansari al-Hanbali, may Allah sanctify his secret, Shaykh al-Islam unanimously according to the Sufis, he will come to know both were from Ahl al-Sunna wa al-Jama’ah; rather from amongst the awliya’ of this Ummah.”

    Senior Barelwi SherKhan or KuttaKhan (following AlooHazrat saying above) said:
    ==========START============
    It is strange (actually not really strange since this is their usual artifice)that the deobandi cites Shaykh Alawi Maliki as the alibi for deobandi honour.

    Not long ago deobandis at sunniforum were discussing kufr/shirk/bidah of Shaykh Alawi Maliki here. In particular Shaykh Alawi’s “deviant” beliefs are cited here (notice the strong discordance of Shaykh Alawi’s beliefs vis-a-vis deobandis).
    ==========END============

    to which
    Senior Barelwi Moderator Noori said:
    ==========START============

    if he is more bid’ati than Ahmed Raza Khan Barelwi then why this question?
    Quote:
    Were they kaafirs too ?
    END Quote:
    but, it is not new, deobandies keep changing their positions as the situation demands.
    ==========END============

    It is not about deobandis kept changing their positions , it is called difference of opinions or ijtihad. I don’t kno w if they teach you that at the barelwi circus zoo, ask your mawlanat abu hasan barelwi.

    Just like there was difference of opinion between scholars of Jarh wa Tadeel. Do you remember which Tabeen had heretical and deviant beliefs yet are considered sunnis, Tabeen / tabi tabeen who had Qadari beliefs, khariji beliefs……. This is high stuff, zoo animals can never grasp it, remember the takfir of Shaykh al-Akbar Muhyi al-Din Ibn Arabi by numerous Sunni scholars including Dhahabi and others …..

    i like how the fraudster abu hasan barelwi got promoted to mawlanat so fast ? is he learning that from hanson and TJ winters ? doesn’t want to get left over in the race ?

    but you guys never commented about about the clown Ilyas Qadri Attari

    ====BEGIN SUNNITABLEEGHIJAMAAT===
    Daur-e-haazir me har roz ek naya fitna paida horaha hai jo Aam logon ko Kufr aur gumrahi ki taraf liye jaraha hai. Jahan ek taraf wahabi/deobandi Aur Gair muqallid jaise Gustaakhane Rasool Aur Gustaakhe Awliya, logon ko Bad-Aqeedgi ka Napak Zehen de rahein hain vahin Dusri taraf kuch gumraah tanzeeme jaise Dawat-e-Islami aur Sunni Daawat-e-Islami Maslak-e-Alahazrat ka jhoota naam lekar Maslake Alahazrat ko badnaam kar rahe hai Sath hi sulaahkulliyat ki bimaari Faila rahe hai aur logon ko dhoka derahi hai.
    In Tamam fitno ko phailane wali tehreekon ke dhoke aur fareb ke parda ko faash karne aur Sahi Maane mein Deen-e-Haq jo is Daur me Maslak-e-Alahazrat ke naam se jaana jaata hai….Uski sahi Tarjumaani aur Sahi Maslak Logon ke samne Pesh karne ke liye http://www.SunniTableegiJamaat.com ka intekhab kiya gaya hai.
    Ye Website All India Sunni Tableegi Jamaat ki Zer-e-Sarparasti me hai.Jise Huzoor Pasbaan-e-Millat Hazrat Allama Mushtaq Ahmed Nizami Sahab(rehmatullahi ta’ala alaih) ne Qayaam kiya tha. All India Sunni Tableegi Jamaat Alhumdulillah takreeban 32 Saalon se Zyada ke arse se Deen ki khidmat anjaam de rahi hai.
    Yaad rahe is tanzeem ke muballig jaahil nahi hote hain, Aalim hona shart hai… Jaisa ke sarkar Alahazrat Imam ahmed Raza Fazil-e-bareilvi (radiyallaho taala anho) ne Fatawa Razawiyya me tehreer farmaya ke” Ghair-Aalim ka Bayan karna aur ghair Aalim se bayan ka sunna Haraam hai”
    Alhumdulillah is par hamaari Jamaat(Sunni Tableegi Jamaat) ka sakhti se amal hai.
    ========END SUNNI TABLEEGHI JAMAAT========

    Then the mufti of Barelwi Akhtar Raza Khan Barelwi gets exposed by other barelwis

    ================START===========
    akhtarrazaexposed blogspot com

    Is Blog ka Maqsad Maslak e Ala Hazrat ke Gaddaron ko exposed karna hai , ye akhtari gaddar log kehte hain ke sirf hamari suno hum hi haq par hain baqi sab gumrah hain , aison ko Dunya ke aagay bay Naqaab karna hai . ye akhtari log Ahle Bait ke Gustakh to hain hi , is ke ssaath saath Ullama e Ahel Sunnat ke bhi gustakh hain aur saath hi mein Sunnaton ki tauheen karne waale bhi hain , is ka proof aap isi blog par dekh sakte hain
    ================END===========

    Then the other barelwis like Noori Miyan, Madani Miyan , Ashrafi Miyan and Irfan Shah Miyan ( busy in gandi khali galowch ) each busy calling other heretic , kafir or biddati….

    arrey wah wah , margeye mardood , bhokna hogaya shuru

    In the book Fawaa’id e Fareediya, written by the Barelwi Mawlana Faqeer Mu’ini Shah Jamali it was said:

    “Hazrat Abul Hasan Kharqani said: In the early morning, Allah wrestled (kuchti) with me, and he threw us down….I am two years younger than our Lord.”
    Barelwis like Abdal-Qadir are in denial and what excuses could they have ? the author was in wajd ( state of intoxication ) or he did not really mean it, or do some taweel , or quoted out of context, no wait it was tampered and there is no isnad for the book. I am out of lame excuses will check with Mukaffir-e-barelwi Irfan shah Mashhadi and come back to you.

    see more here, book cover with quotes
    http://www.islamimehfil.com/topic/10627-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%DB%81-%D8%B3%DB%92-%DA%A9%D8%B4%D8%AA%DB%8C-%D8%9F-%DA%A9%DB%8C%D8%A7-%D8%9F/

    2 خواجہ غلام فرید چشتی نے لکھا ہے:
    ’’ایک شخص خواجہ معین الدین چشتی کے پاس آیا اور عرض کیا کہ مجھے اپنا مرید بنائیں۔
    فرمایا کہہ لا الٰہ الااللہ چشتی رسول اللہ اللہ کے سوا کوئی معبود نہیں چشتی اللہ کا رسول ہے۔‘‘
    ( فوائدِ فریدیہ ص ۸۳)۔
    خواجہ غلام فرید کی کتاب’’فوائد فریدیہ‘‘ کے متعلق عبد الحکیم شرف قادری نے لکھا:
    ’’مسلکِ توحید اور اعتقادی مسائل پر بہترین کتاب۔‘‘ (تذکر ۂ اکابر اہلسنت ص۳۲۴)۔

    http://www.ahlussunnah.in/2012/12/

    Keep barking barelwis, not getting enough Dog biscuits at the zoo, may be you will if you start calling Allanat instead of mawlanat.

  6. Abul Hussain says:

    mawlanat abu hasan barelwi replied
    =========START==========
    Quote:
    The challenge was to prove that this “encompassing” knowledge was affirmed for Satan – which is what Abu Hasan claimed -, not that Mawlana Khalil Ahmad Saharanpuri merely used the word. Hence, challenge still stands.
    END Quote

    actually, noori bhai already pointed out an error in my translation of khalil ahmed’s passage in his mail early in the morning. i translated:
    The extensiveness of knowledge for Satan and the Angel of Death is proven by scriptural proof;
    and it should be:
    This extensiveness of knowledge for Satan and the Angel of Death is proven by scriptural proof;
    =============
    the devbandi may never commit any error in arabic – and all deobandis become proficient in arabic grammar as soon as they are associated with deoband such that, no deobandi work has ANY grammar mistake NOR any deobandi translation/transliteration has EVER a grammar mistake.

    لسان فصيح معرب في كلامه * فياليته من حسرة العرض يسلم
    وما ينفع الإعراب إن لم يكن تقى * وما ضر ذا تقوى لسان معجم

    the poet was lamenting those people who take extra-care to be perfect in speech but do not worry about character; and what would he say about such people who commit/defend blasphemies!

    but mr.sibawiyh, urdu is our mother tongue and we suppose we can understand it fairly well – even though we don’t claim `ismah or unerring proficiency. so go ahead and show this passage to anybody who can speak urdu and ask them what this means: shayTan aur malak al-mawt ko yeh wus’at naSS se sabit huwi.
    ========END===========

    ah, mawlanat making several mistakes, better change your name to the old one SIFAR indeed you are sifar. you have seem to have excuses when you are caught with mistakes, lies, blunders, was it last time you had to take a leak and you were in hurry and did a quick translation but never happened that you corrected or revised after taking the leak or whatever the excuse was until you were caught red handed…

    indeed AlooHazrat was genius just like you are also a genius at the zoo.

    • Abul Hussain says:

      clarification: mawlanat is the same as like using barelwi spellings devbandi for deobandi

      ofcourse we sunnis don’t curse any muslim. We still consider Barelwis to be muslims where as Barelwis don’t consider their opponents to be muslims, we follow our elders like Ghazali & others and dump in trash bin the barelwi clowns like Barelwi Irfan Shah Mashhadi who loves to send curses on muslims otherwise how would he profit or make followers , he must follow the quick scam trick of Aloohazrat

    • Abul Hussain says:

      =====START RUBBISH OF ABDAL-QADIR KHARIJITE BARELWI=====

      the zindiq doesn’t understand that nuh keller, was declared deviant, not because of his love or hate of anyone, but because he showed the gaps in his knowledge.

      it is for this same reason, that we equally don’t take a liking for other juhalaa like keller, like mark hanson, who hasn’t even uttered a squeak on the Sunni-deobandi issue

      i find it astonishing that the zindiq accuses us for lashing out at so-called shuyukh, on defending the personality of Ala Hazrat.

      the fool doesn’t know we defend Ala Hazrat only when the Suni 3aqaid he stands for are trampled upon

      if we were followers of personality cults like the deobandis that want to trample all over Islam only to defend the satanic personalities of the ‘akabir’ at any cost, then we would never happily embrace all those neutral Sunni Arab and Turkish and other scholars who remain tight lipped about the issue due to not knowing urdu

      we were the same with keller too, until we saw him defending heresies, i3tizal and zandaqa

      if these monkeys have any shame, let them forget about our differences with keller on the Sunni-deobandi issue in the subcontinent, and let them have a look at his endorsement of the common word zandaqah, but then again their top dog tacky usmani too is on the list of the signatories to the zandaqah

      benedict speaks rubbish about our beloved Prophet, and all these zanadiq proceed to address him as “his holiness”… some muslims these people are!

      =====END====

      what a liar, what about Shaykh Sayyid Barzanji who refuted your AlooHazrat Ahmed Rida Khan Barelwi in Arabic while AlooHazrat was alive ? May be AlooHazrat or his sons arabic wasn’t good enough to understand what was written against him in Arabic ?

      you can read the book of Shaykh Barzanji tearing apart AlooHazrat Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi here: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?35715-Ghayat-al-Ma-mul-fi-Ilm-al-Rasul-by-Shaykh-Barjanzi-An-incorrect-allegation/page5

      Oh yes you defend the personality of AlooHazrat who called himself dog as shown above , what about AlooHazrat’s insults on Sayyidah Ayesha radiallah as shown in the above video from the book of AlooHazrat, why hasn’t your mawlanat abu hasan ridawi or irfan shah mashhadi or clown asrar rashid , munawwar ateeq , akhtar raza khan or any other barelwi clown demolish this argument if it was
      1) lie
      2) distortion
      3) fabrication forgery
      4) mistranslation / misquotation

      barelwis are quiet all these years because it is reality otherwise mr. sifar of ridawipress and his cronies would have been posting all over the internet , look devbandis have been caught lying, Aloohazrat never wrote such statement……or whatever….

      shame on you people, only fooling your own selves…

      May Allah guide you and us.

  7. Abul Hussain says:

    Oh no, looks like i hit few barelwi nerves…too bad, don’t have the dog t biscuits

    ====== BEGIN QUOTE SENIOR BARELWI MODERATOR NOORI ====

    prove what lies have you caught?
    Hahaha, it is really fun to read abul hussain’s replies, he has gone so wildly crazy.
    =====END QUOTE OF NOORI====

    ====== BEGIN LIE #1 of SENIOR BARELWI MODERATOR NOORI ====

    quote
    ofcourse we sunnis don’t curse any muslim. We still consider Barelwis to be muslims where as Barelwis don’t consider their opponents to be muslims
    end quote

    yes, you had to add this, but have you modified your own blog

    ===END LIE #1 of Barelwi Noori ====

    1) It is not my blog

    2) I am not even a deobandi , everyone knows that only a deluded fool would try to associate me with darul uloom deoband , not that anything is wrong with being affiliation of deoband, everyone has his own tastes…. Deobandis are hardcore muqallids of earlier hanafi imams like Ayni, Ali Qari , etc. where as Barelwis hardcore followers of Nafs — money — T biscuits

    3) I don’t know have any admin access to this blog neither I know any one from this blog

    4) I never modified but made a new post/comment reply….but why you have to lie inorder to defend yourself ?

    ====== BEGIN LIE #2 of SENIOR BARELWI MODERATOR NOORI ====
    zameel says
    Quote:
    BTW TKM is just trash work
    End Quote:
    but your post reveals your extreme pain. but wAllahi, it is nothing, the pain which awaits you is way too big.

    ===END LIE #2 of Barelwi Noori ====

    1) what has mawlanat abu hasan barelwi feeding you people at the zoo ? are you ok noori
    2) zameel didn’t say that but I did say it
    3) can you please post on your forum that you were caught lying two times and you take back your lies otherwise you will be like AloooooooooHazrat

    ====BEGIN NOORI=====
    and what about shaykh Muhammed Alavi, was he muslim or mushrik, for the time bieng? Make up your mind, he believed in ilm al -ghayb of the prophet sallAllahu alaihi wasallam. Who do you want to declare a mushrik, rashid ganghi or ismayl dehlavi or shayk alavi, for the time bieng of course.
    =====END NOORI======

    i thought i gave you analogy of Shaykh al-Akbar Muhiy al-Din Ibn Arabi ? according to 100s of Sunni scholars he was declared kafir ! but what about AlooHazrat does he make excuses for Ibn Arabi and can’t make excuses for Deobandis ? what about you guys, do you consider Ibn Arabi sunni muslim despite what great scholars have said about Ibn Arabi ? do you guys or AlooHazrat claim to have more knowledge than those great scholars ?

    (3). Ibn Sayyid an-Naas and ibn Daqeeq al-Eid and other scholars all mention from their shaykh al-Izz bin Abdis Salaam (who was contemporary to ibn Arabi) that he said about him, “an evil shaykh, a liar.” This was mentioned by adh-Dhahabi via many routes.
    I believe your mawlanat rampuri/takfeerpuri is aware of who ibn sayyid al-naas is…..

    (5, 6). Ibn Hajar and his Shaykh al-Balqeenu. Ibn Hajar says in his biography to ibn al-Farid in his ‘Lisaan al-Meezaan,’ “I asked our Shaykh Siraaj ad-Deen al-Balqeeni about ibn al-Arabu and he promptly replied that he was a kaafir.”

    (7). al-Dhahabi, “and how would it be if the Shaykh (i.e. Sayf ad-Deen Ali , the Sufi) saw the words of ibn Arabi which are pure kufr and heresy, he would say ‘this is the Dajjaal that is awaited.’”

    • Abul Hussain says:

      Senior Barelwi Moderator Noori said “Keep barking, every sane person can see that you’r just BARKING.”

      Please note that Barelwis don’t get offended when they are referred to as Dogs as a matter of fact AlooHazrat Ahmad Reza Khan Barelwi said in his book :

      KOI KYA PUCHE TERI BAAT RAZA // TUJH SE KUTTE HAZAR PHIRTE HAIN

      which means “Why should someone listen to you O Raza Dogs like you roam around in thousands”

      Someone posted on facebook about AlooHazrat, we ask the barelwis please verify and let the readers know if these are out of context , distortions , lies or mistranslations…. ?

      “Why should someone listen to you O Raza Dogs like you roam around in thousands.”
      (SOURCE: Muqaddimah Sharh al-Huqooq p.11, Ahmad Raza Khan in his book Hadaa’iq bakhshishi))

      He deprecated himself with the following words:
      “No one asks about you, and no one cares for you, Because the dogs like you are numerous I am the dog.”
      (SOURCE: Ahmad Raza Khan in his book Hadaa’iq bakhshish page 5)

      Ahmed Raza Bareilawi said, ‘When you are confronted with difficulty then seek help from the people in the graves. ‘
      (SOURCE: Al-Amn wal ‘Alaa by Ahmed Raza Bareilawi p.46 – Daarat Tableegh, Lahore)

      Ahmed Raza Bareilawi said: “If there is a gathering of the Hindus, Christians, Qadiyanis, and Deobandis, the Deobandis alone should be rejected, for they have come out of the fold of Islam. Agreement with the unbelievers is far better than the agreement with the apostates.”
      (lbn al -Bareilawi, Malfuzat MuJaddio al-Mi’at al-Hadira, pp. 325- 26)

      he said: “Eating the flesh of an animal slaughtered by a Jew is lawful, and similarly the meat of an animal slaughtered by a Christian. As for the animals slaughtered by the Wahhabis, if they recite the name of Allah one thousand times and they are righteous, the eating of this meat is forbidden, for it is the slaughtering of an apostate.”
      (SOURCE:Ahmad raza in his book Fatawa Ifriqiyya, p. 27)

      He also said: “If anyone believes that the Wahhabis are Muslims, he becomes an unbeliever. It is not lawful to pray behind him. ”
      (SOURCE: Al-Mubin, also included in: al-Fatawa al-Ridwiyya pp. 80-81)

      ENJOY

  8. Abul Hussain says:

    The dog of AlooHazrat Ahmed Raza Khan Barelwi, Mr. fraudster Abdal-Qadir spews more lies

    ===== BEGIN LIES, DISTORTIONS of ABDAL-QADIR BARELWI====

    actually that abu jahal who likes to call himself abul hussain is himself a big naked liar and delusional.

    firstly he himself quotes me, where i said clearly that i had never heard of this mawlana

    i said, and abu jahal quoted me:

    Quote:
    in any case i haven’t seen that quote by this Mawlana Muini Shah Jamali, and this devdas site is the first i have read of him.
    End Quote

    despite that abu jahal lies against me by saying

    Quote:
    Barelwis like Abdal-Qadir are in denial and what excuses could they have ? the author was in wajd ( state of intoxication ) or he did not really mean it, or do some taweel , or quoted out of context, no wait it was tampered and there is no isnad for the book. I am out of lame excuses will check with Mukaffir-e-barelwi Irfan shah Mashhadi and come back to you.
    END QUOTE

    what denial? – i said clearly i don’t know this mawlana or anything about him or what he wrote.

    abu jahal needs to be reminded again that deen defines people. people don’t define deen. if anyone endorses tashbeeh and tajseem, he is guilty, just like they are when they say that Allah’s speech is created and can be true or false!

    —————

    he says:

    Quote:
    2) I am not even a deobandi , everyone knows that only a deluded fool would try to associate me with darul uloom deoband , not that anything is wrong with being affiliation of deoband, everyone has his own tastes…. Deobandis are hardcore muqallids of earlier hanafi imams like Ayni, Ali Qari , etc. where as Barelwis hardcore followers of Nafs — money — T biscuits
    END QUOTE

    everyone knows this little abu jahal? just how famous is this guy?

    if he is not deobandi, why is he barking on deobandi blogs and forums waving pom poms for them?

    ——————

    this jahil has a fascination with a couplet of Ala Hazrat where he calls himself a dog of the Prophet, 3alaihis salam.

    we say proudly – we prefer and consider it good fortune to be loyal dogs owned by the Beloved of Allah, while this guy takes pride in being crowned a king by iblis himself!

    the dog owned by the pious as’haab al-kahf is not mentioned distastefully in the Quran, but kings like nimrood and fir3awn are!

    it is futile explaining loyalty to someone like him.

    —————–

    as for the Shafi3iy sheikh, Barzanji –

    i’d like abu jahal to produce the Arabic manuscript of the book before we can entertain his cries.

    he was caught out when he brought in Alawi al-Maliki and saw that his deobandi brothers called him a bigger deviant than Ala Hazrat

    =====END OF LIES of ABDAL-QADIR BARELWI===

    Hence forth you shall be referred as Dog of AlooHazrat Abdal-Qadir since you don’t see it as any problem , rather you would liked to be called as such, this is how i understand .
    quote the dog of barelwi Abdal-Qadir said “we say proudly – we prefer and consider it good fortune to be loyal dogs owned by the Beloved of Allah, while this guy takes pride in being crowned a king by iblis himself!”

    Hadith – Bukhari 3:515, Narrated Abu Huraira

    Allah’s Apostle sallahu alayhi wa sallam said, “Whoever keeps a dog, one Qirat of the reward of his good deeds is deducted daily, unless the dog is used for guarding a farm or cattle.” Abu Huraira (in another narration) said from the Prophet, “unless it is used for guarding sheep or farms, or for hunting.” Narrated Abu Hazim from Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, “A dog for guarding cattle or for hunting.” bukhari

    I heard Allah’s Apostle sallahu alayhi wa sallam saying; “Angels (of Mercy) do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or a picture of a living creature (a human being or an animal).” bukhari

    The Prophet sallahu alayhi wa sallam said: When you hear the barking of dogs and the braying of asses at night, seek refuge in Allah, for they see which you do not see.

    I seek refuge in Allah, from the raza khani AlooHazrat Barking dogs….

    One morning Allah’s Messenger sallahu alayhi wa sallam was silent with grief. Maymunah said: Allah’s Messenger, I find a change in your mood today. Allah’s Messenger said: Gabriel had promised me that he would meet me last night, but he did not meet me. By Allah, he never broke his promises; and Allah’s Messenger spent the day in this sad (mood). Then it occurred to him that there had been a puppy under their cot. He gave an order and it was turned out. He then took some water in his hand and sprinkled it on the place. When it was evening Gabriel met him and he said to him: You promised me that you would meet me the previous night. He said: Yes, but we do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture. So the very next morning he commanded the dogs to be killed. He announced that the dog kept for the orchards should also be killed, but he spared the dog used for the protection of extensive fields (or big gardens).

    The Prophet sallahu alayhi wa sallam said, “Were dogs not a species of creature I should command that they all be killed; but kill every pure black one.” [Muslim, Narrated AbuDharr: “…The black dog is a devil.”]

    The Prophet sallahu alayhi wa sallam said, “Five kinds of animals are mischief-doers and can be killed even in the Sanctuary: They are the rat, the scorpion, the kite, the crow and the rabid dog.”

    Oh Jahil Barelwis, learn Islam before you guys make yourselves Dogs and Pigs of AlooHazrat Barelwi

    See, how the liar and dog of Raza Khan Abdal-Qadir tries to escape with a lame excuse saying “i said clearly i don’t know this mawlana or anything about him or what he wrote.”

    Oh real Jahil Barelwi Abdal-Qadir, all the people you have made takfeer and tabdi or criticized did you know them, do you know Ali Jifri, T J Winters, Habib Umar, Hamza Yusuf Hanson, Nuh Keller, Shaykh Nazim Haqqani, Dr. Tahir al-Qadri or any other from their types. Did you meet them or seek for their clarification for your lies, deception and distortion ? what a lamest excuse that mr. dog barelwi Abdal-Qadir doesn’t know Mushabih Munni shah barelwi so he can exonerate his barelwi deviancy.

    How about I give you proof directly from your kuttey AlooHazrat and his tashbeeh / tajseem ,

    Barelwi AlooHazrat Ahmad Raza Khan says Sayyid Abdul Qadir Jilani fights with Allah ? Wow you guys Barelwis turned out to be real anthropomorphists

    What lame excuse can Barelwi Abdal-Qadir come up with now, he was unable to get hold of mawlanat Abu Hasan Ridawi at the zoo who was busy feeding his ilk ? or will he say the same, that he doesn’t know who takfiri AlooHazrat Ahmed Raza Khan Barelwi is ?

    I am beginning to enjoy the barelwi circus show , bring us few new rabid barelwi dogs who can do new tricks.

    KOI KYA PUCHE TERI BAAT RAZA // TUJH SE KUTTE HAZAR PHIRTE HAIN

    which means “Why should someone listen to you O Raza Dogs like you roam around in thousands”

    ===

    what I am doing on Deobandi blog forum ?

    why do you care so much ? that’s none of your business, mawlanat not feeding you enough dog t-biscuits ?

    • Abul Hussain says:

      Poor Mawlanat Abu Hasan Barelwi and his puppy-dog Abdal-Qadir, gives advice and then himself displays nifaq and doesn’t follow own advice

      First the dog-of-raza-khan-barelwi with rabies, Mawlanat Abu Hasan says

      =====START ABU HASAN=======
      ya abd al-Qadir.

      if you shout and call him names, it will only prod him. you don’t heed my advice, but will you heed the advice of the qur’an?

      ====END ABU HASAN================

      then few minutes later

      =====START ABU HASAN=======
      actually, faqeerkhan is called a dog in the hadith. he and his biradari are called: “kilab an-naar”

      —-
      and ‘scholars’ who blaspheme against the prophet SallALlahu alayhi wa sallam or those dandy ‘scholars’ who spend their energies to exonerate such ashqiya and even resort to lies – all to exonerate the blasphemers of the Prophet SallAllahu alayhi wa sallam. such people are called dogs in the qur’an.

      when alahazrat said “tujh se kuttey hazar phirtey haiN,” it was a metaphor for a humble servant of the Prophet sallALlahu alayhi wa sallam.

      if that munafiq has guts, let him call khalil ambhetvi “a person who cherishes donkey-urine” on that blog, because khalil claims that he even respects the urine of that donkey upon which the Messenger sallAllahu alayhi wa sallam sat. but the munafiq won’t; and the devbandi who runs that blog will not allow any such criticism of khalil ahmed; all their ire is reserved for alahazrat.

      ====END ABU HASAN=========

      if Mr. AlooHazrat Ahmed Rida Khan Barelwi calls himself pig or donkey or dog then wow hundreds of excuses, but for the opponents they are kafirs and whoever doesn’t acknowledge that is also a kafir.

      According to us Sunnis, you and your barelwi brethren are kilab al-naar because the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said about your takfiri types Prophet ﷺ that the Khawarij are the dogs of the Fire. Your types who act like judge,jury and executioner , the all in one khariji mentality…There are many sahih ahadith narrated concerning killing the Khawarij. RasulAllah (saw) said: “Tooba is for those who kill them (the Khawarij) or who are killed by them.” (Ahmad; Ibn Sad; Ibn Abi Asim, Sunnah; Lailaki, Sharh usulul itiqad) “They are most evil of creation.” (Muslim) “Whosoever encounters them let him kill them; since there is a reward on the Day of Judgment for the one who kills them.” (Bukhari; Muslim) “The Khawarij are the dogs of hellfire.” (from Abi Awfa by Tirmidhi; Ibn Maja; Ahmad; Ibn Asim, as-Sunnah; Abdullah ibn Ahmad b Hanbal, as-Sunnah and from Abu Uthman al-Bahili by Tirmidhi, Abdurrazzaq, al-Musannaf; ibn Abi Shaybah, Musannaf; Tabarani, Mujamul Kabeer; Tabarani, al-Awsat; Tabarari, as-Sagher; Hakim, Mustadrak; Bayhaqi, as-Sunanul Kubra)

      Here is a challenge to Mawlanat Abu Hasan Barelwi and his rabid dogs, show the alleged disrespectful statements to Muhammad Yacoubi and other Arab scholars and get the takfeer fatwa if you can otherwise let us see you are woman enough to declare them kafir as well ?

      one last thing, i could still not figure out how abu hasan became Mawlanat so fast from br, sidi, shaykh and now Mawlanat ?

      and let us not forget the real insulters of the Prophet sallallu alayhi wa sallam are these khariji takfiri barelwis who love to call themselves Dogs // Kuttey

      See the PROOF

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