Raza Khan Equating the Knowledge of the Prophet with the Knowledge of Allah


One needs to remember that, the distinction between astribing intrinsic (dhati) knowledge to the Prophet is shirk while granted (ata’i) knowledge is not,  is foolish. The response should be immediately whether the attribute “creating” (takhliq) of Allah when granted to anyone of the creation is not shirk either? Can it still not be deemed as shirk when a person believes someone is granted this attribute of creating and create worlds, humans, animals and whatever he wants?

Likewise, Ahmad Raza Khan and his followers attribued the attribute of knowledge of Allah, to the creation. He came with an opinion that nobody from the Salaf ever held. No reliable scholar ever stated such what he and his Barelwi followers stated in his books.

Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi states in his book Anba al-Mustafa about the knowledge of the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam):

 “It is without a doubt that the Almighty has given His Noble Beloved (Allah bless him and grant him peace) the complete knowledge of everything from the first till the last. From the east to the west, from the Throne till the earth, everything was shown to him. He was made witness to the Kingdom of the heavens and the earth. From the very first day till the last day all of the knowledge of what was and what shall be (ma kana wa ma yakun) has been shown to him. From all of the above, not even an iota is outside the knowledge of the Prophet. Great knowledge has been encompassed by the Noble Beloved (Allah bless him and grant him peace). It is not just of a summary type but what is small and big, every leaf that falls and every grain in the darkness of the earth are in their entirety known to him individually and in detail. Much praise to Allah. In fact, that which has been discussed is not, never, the complete knowledge of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and grant him peace and send peace on his family and companions, all of them); but this is a small part of the Prophet’s knowledge …” (Anba al-Mustafa, p.486)

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11 Responses to Raza Khan Equating the Knowledge of the Prophet with the Knowledge of Allah

  1. Simply Sunni says:

    But I have failed to understand why the attribute of creation is restricted to creating world, humans etc? What about scientists doing clonig now a days or potters making pots or artists carving from wood or metal? Has science acquired partnership in this attribute? Can the comparison of Ilm & takhleeq be same? Were the powers given to Syedna Eisa (as) were not atai? Is believing them to be atai deracts any thing from the powers of healing and reviving the dead of Allah (swt)? Doesn’t atai means granted by Allah (swt)? When Barevlis say Nabi or Rasool, is it a Nabi or Rasool of Allah (swt) or an independent entity? If they say Nabi (saws) had knwledge of unseen, being a Nabi of Allah (swt) can we believe it to be granted knowledge or acquired knowledge? If acquired, even acquiring some thing is based on Allah (swt)’s grant or not?

    Could you please address these doubts?

  2. 19 days have been elapsed, but no Deobandi having been taught from their “great elders” has come forward.

    Awaiting to see the reply from Deobandis on the above raised questions.

  3. Simply Sunni says:

    As’salamu alaikum WRB,

    The links provided do not address the issue but in the same fashion showing a fear of Prophet (saws) being made partner in sharing the unseen. Perhaps it is due to problem in understanding the word Nabi Allah. What Shaikh Ahmad Raza wrote was that :

    {{In fact, that which has been discussed is not, never, the complete knowledge of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and grant him peace and send peace on his family and companions, all of them); but this is a small part of the Prophet’s knowledge}}

    So here the fear is that he is equating the knowledge of Allah (swt) with Prophet (saws) and whreas the Shaikh after mentioning so many things considers that knowledge of the Prophet (saws) to be a small part of the knowledge granted to Prophet (saws). If this statement of the Shaikh has forced the author to come up with the title then one can find it surprising that the author has measured the knowledge of the Allah (swt) and its level, extent and constituents. And this level & content was foud to be wrongly attributed to Prophet (saws) by Shaikh Ahmad Raza.

    It is difficult to understand these intricaies for commoners like me but if we have to really see who had always (verbally) equated the knowledge of the Prophet (saws) & Allah (swt) were none but the Sahaba (ra) as we find many instances of them uttering Allah (swt) and Prophet (saws) knows in numerous ahadees.

    Perhaps it will take some time to resolve this difference which is meaningless as one group is trying to save the divinty of Allah (swt) by rejecting the granted knowledge and the other trying to save the honour of Prophet (saws) by attributing as comprehensive a knowledge as possible and perhaps based on their imagination/love of the Prophet (saws).

    May be this will resolve if a revison of the basic terminolgoeis is done as we now have another explanation of the verse about no one knowing what is in the womb after invention of ultrasound & IFV methods of impregnating women telling in advance about the sex of the baby.

  4. Ahmad Tariq says:

    This comment is meant for the one who calls himself “Simply Sunni”.

    The things you mention about potters making pots and artists carving from wood has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. When potters make pots and artists carve from wood, they don’t create anything. We perform actions, we don’t create them.

    So when Sayyiduna 3Iisaa, 3alayhis salaam, brought a dead person back to life, Allah created this miracle. Sayyiduna 3Iisaa, 3alayhis salaam, did not create anything.

    Another point: As Sahaabah never implied that the Prophet, sallallahu 3alayhi wa aalihi wa sahbihi wa sallam, knew everything. If he, 3alayhis salatu was salam, knew everything, he would NEVER have answered “I don’t know” when he was asked about something.

    The following has been related by Imam Muslim and others:

    Once a companion came to the Prophet, 3alayhis salatu was salam, and asked the Prophet, 3alayhis salatu was salam, about the best and worst places on earth and the Prophet, 3alayhis salatu was salam, said “Laa adrii, as’alu Jibriil” – it means “I don’t know, I will ask Jibriil”. If the Prophet, 3alayhis salatu was salam, really KNEW what the best and worst places on earth was, then this would mean that the Prophet, 3alayhis salatu was salam, LIED because he said “I don’t know”!

    Wal3iyaadhubillah.

  5. swan says:

    assalam wa alaikum
    brothers
    its a good topic with numerous answers
    brothers lets se the question first
    the ? is “Mohammed (pbuh) was aware of the unseen or not ?”
    if u search for the answer u will get both the answers . Sme people will say yes some people will say no
    And as both can give proofs from quran and hadeth it will be difficult to decide what to believe LETS SEE WITH BOLD EYES THE ONE WHO REPLIES NO ASK HIM WHAT IS QURAN ISNT IT THE KNOWLEDGE OF UNSEEN
    To be continued…….

  6. swan says:

    THE ONE WHO SAYS YES IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF MOHAMMED SAWS AND THE KNOWLDGE OF ALLAH EQUAL
    I AM SURE BOTH OF THEM WILL TAKE THEIR STATEMENT BACK
    BROTHERS THE REAL ANSWER WOULD BE THAT MOHAMMED SAWS HAD KNOWLEDGE MUCH MORE THAN COMMON MAN AND HAD KNOWLEDGE LESS THAN ALLAH SWT
    AND WE DONT KNOW WHAT IS THE EXACT AMOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE HE HAD THERE IS NO POINT IN MAKING STATEMENTS ABOUT WHICH WE DONT KNOW THE EXACT ANSWER THESE KIND OF DEBATE ARE THE PLOTTINS OF THE SHAITAN

  7. malik abdullah says:

    assalam wa alaikum
    brothers
    this is a good topic and a ? with numerous answers let us se the ? carefully “does Mohammed saws have knowledge of unseen?” if u ask this ? some people will say “yes” some will say “no” lets be BOLD TO UNDERSTAND
    THE ONE WHO SAYS “NO” ASK HIM A COUNTER ? ISNT QURAN THE KNOWLEDGE OF UNSEEN OK NOW LETS SEE THE OTHER CASE THE ONE WHO REPLIES IN AFFARMATIVE ASK HIM WEATHER THE KNOWLEDGE OF ALLAH AND MOHAMMED THE SAME WHAT I THINK IS BOTH OF THEM WILL REMAIN SILENT CONT….

  8. malik abdullah says:

    cont…
    THAT MEANS MOHAMMED SAWS HAD SONE KNOWLEDGE OF UNSEEN BUT NOT THE EXTEND ANY WHERE NEAR THE KNOWLEDGE OF ALLAH THAT MEANS HE (SAWS) HAD KNOWLEDGE MORE THEN ORDINARY HUMAN AND LESS THAN ALLAH AND WE DONT KNOW THE EXTEND OF HIS (SAWS ) KNOWLEDGE SO THERE IS NO POINT ARGUING ABOUT THINGS WE DONT KNOW ABOUT

  9. malik abdullah says:

    jazak allah

  10. wamin says:

    brother, your wasting your time… the aqeeda of the Barelwis and Deobandis are essentially the same… the difference is only in the explanation. Its like splitting hairs.
    it’s mainly a historical differences, which was unfortunate. Its time we let go of our little sects and start thinking as a collective ahl sunna wal jama`ah.
    These are petty issues, you need to start thinking bigger.

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